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Old 04-14-2018, 05:00 PM  
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What are you spinning?
LPs, CDs, Concert DVDs...What you been listening to?

Recent spins :
Blackberry Smoke - Find A Light - LP
Jimi Hendrix - Both Sides of the Sky - LP
Led Zeppelin - How the West Was Won - Blu-Ray Audio
Jack White - Boarding House Reach - LP
Foo Fighters -Concrete & Gold - LP
Waylon Jennings - New Stuff - LP
Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - LP
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - LP
Clutch - Elephant Riders - CD
Rolling Stones - Metamorphosis - Hybrid SACD
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Old 11-17-2018, 03:08 PM   #331
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I'm too jaded to even entertain the idea that a collection of teen-aged girls achieved something monumental. Forgive me
They were in their early 20s when they started and had their planned break up in their mid 20s. They pretty much birthed the underground and alt idol scene.

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It's almost like the pure as wind-driven snow culture you describe was ripe for some counter-culture

it's prolly happened thousands of times

The reason they attacked mainstream idol was because it only presented itself as pure as wind-driven snow while actually setting them up as objects of lust. BiS pretty much ripped the veil away and uglied up the typical idol perception. The members drank, smoked, openly flaunted sexuality sometimes while comparing the idol industry to prostitution at others. They trolled their hardcore fans while also stage diving and having hug sessions with them. The fans they eventually won over and pushed them up the charts came from punk, rock, and metal fans that finally had an idol group to call their own.

That and idol pretty much took over the Japanese pop scene a few years before. There is a reason why they named their studio albums Idol is Dead and Who Killed Idol?
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:00 PM   #332
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Yes, but he did it in a genre that was known for being rebellious. Not in a genre that was known for being completely corporate controlled including contractual obligations for purity, wholesomeness, and chastity* while the idol groups were presented with a wink and a nod as sex objects to their fans.

*Idols are generally salaried employees of their talent agencies not as independent entities. This also means pay tends to be low.
Fair enough.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:11 PM   #333
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just searched for The MMB. Gonna need to focus the search a bit, there's a lot out there that goes by The MMB

diggin' this though. Nice guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AodmscR0sRI
thank you! MMB = The Marilyn Mayhem Band

Singer is like 4'3" and cute as a button, releasing an EP early next year
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:19 PM   #334
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Sorry gents, but I'm not accepting a browbeating here

All art is rightfully in the mind of the beholder, and for many of us... maybe we're just not feeling the same magic from this new era of music, across several genres

I'm still waiting for the next truly dangerous rock n roll band
Did you infer that Nirvana was a "dangerous rock n roll band"?
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:23 PM   #335
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Sure wont be taking a dressing down from some guy your age, either

When you're throwing around the Black Keys as some kind of raucous rebellion, I'd beg to differ... the old days dont have to die, someone just needs to step up
I wonder how old you think I actually am?
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Old 11-19-2018, 03:46 PM   #336
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Did you infer that Nirvana was a "dangerous rock n roll band"?
I absolutely did, what do you disagree with?

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I wonder how old you think I actually am?
Whatever your age may be, I'm not accepting what you guys were trying to sell me earlier

Music, as we all know, is extremely subjective

We can debate it, we can discuss it, but lectures are out of the question... you'll note I didnt come in here shitting on peoples opinions
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:16 PM   #337
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I absolutely did, what do you disagree with?



Whatever your age may be, I'm not accepting what you guys were trying to sell me earlier

Music, as we all know, is extremely subjective

We can debate it, we can discuss it, but lectures are out of the question... you'll note I didnt come in here shitting on peoples opinions
I was just pointing out how wrong you are about the death of good music, Gramps.

No one has lectured you or shit on your opinions. What you're experiencing is debate and discussion. I completely agree that music quality is a subjective matter. If you want to stick to the music of your youth, that's fine with me.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:22 PM   #338
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I was just pointing out how wrong you are about the death of good music, Gramps.

No one has lectured you or shit on your opinions. What you're experiencing is debate and discussion. I completely agree that music quality is a subjective matter. If you want to stick to the music of your youth, that's fine with me.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:36 PM   #339
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I was just pointing out how wrong you are about the death of good music, Gramps.

No one has lectured you or shit on your opinions. What you're experiencing is debate and discussion. I completely agree that music quality is a subjective matter. If you want to stick to the music of your youth, that's fine with me.

Well then, you will REALLY call ME "Gramps"........I just finished listening to (for the 800th time) Steppenwolf's "Monster".

Next up - Gentle Giant "The Power and the Glory".....


Broaden your horizons into the past - it'll do you no harm and might even allow you to understand when "music" was actually "music"


Now - GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
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Old 11-19-2018, 05:44 PM   #340
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Did you infer that Nirvana was a "dangerous rock n roll band"?
Only to the hair bands that had long since devolved to self parody. To the culture in general? Not really.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:07 PM   #341
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Goat. Both of these vids are worth a view, especially if you've never heard this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1xA6fBVdw

and the original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctoD57aYqw

go chiefies!
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:08 PM   #342
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Went to see Ghost in El Paso on Nov. 9th. Best show I've ever seen. Anybody else listen to Ghost?
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:24 PM   #343
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80's hair rules

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1m-qPr22aA?start=145&
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Went to see Ghost in El Paso on Nov. 9th. Best show I've ever seen. Anybody else listen to Ghost?
that 1 song of theirs I know

Rats!
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lol love the dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ijc7A5oAc
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