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Old 01-22-2019, 05:10 PM  
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Thoughts on the AFCCG

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!!
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:31 PM   #136
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I'd also like to add that I don't think Brady's durability is all that impressive when so many QBs are now durable.

How many games has Eli Manning missed? Rivers? Brees? What about Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan?
Brady missed one season since 2001. Other than that he never miss a game
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:04 PM   #137
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:42 PM   #138
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I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:53 PM   #139
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I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.
That's pretty impressive though.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:55 AM   #140
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Brady missed one season since 2001. Other than that he never miss a game
You're right.
Other than when he's suspended
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:00 AM   #141
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Kid won science fair by proving Brady is a cheater.

How did you come up with the idea for your science fair project?

Because I hate Tom Brady, he’s been accused of cheating before, I want him to be caught.

He also said that he thinks Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time, and knows exactly what he’d say to Brady if he ever met him.

If you could share a message with Tom Brady what would you say to him?

Gimme some of your money, you don’t deserve it

https://news.yahoo.com/news/10-year-...184439991.html
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:14 AM   #142
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I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...



Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.



Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.



Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew ****ing Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.
Nitpick: The 49-3 game was not the championship. It was the divisional game.

The AFC did not suck in the '80s. The NFC was simply epic. The 49ers, Redskins, Giants, and Bears were all good enough to have dynasties except that they all existed at the same time. See, in the days before the salary cap, there were a few teams that were wicked good. Unlike this era where we have a bunch of mediocre teams and no really good teams.

I suggest you go watch the 1990 NFCCG between the Giants and 49ers. Brady and the Patriots would have gotten their asses handed to them by either of those defenses.

Everybody outside of New England knows the Patriots are a fake dynasty because their success is built on freakish luck.

Super Bowl #1 - Patriots lost in the divisional game but the refs selectively enforced an obscure, questionable rule. NFL history and physics say that was a fumble.

Super Bowls #4 and #5 - Patriots should have lost except for last minute meltdowns by opposing offensive coordinators. Seahawks and Falcons call running plays and Patriots lose both games.

Patriots also choked away their perfect season.

Brady's record in the Super Bowl should be 2-5. Not the GOAT.
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:17 AM   #143
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I think they also have more cheating scandals and forfeited draft picks than all 122 other professional franchises.

And the most prolific murderer, I believe. Can't forget the murderer.
The Bills might not agree.
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:19 AM   #144
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That's pretty impressive though.
They win on both sides of the coin
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:33 AM   #145
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Kid won science fair by proving Brady is a cheater.

How did you come up with the idea for your science fair project?

Because I hate Tom Brady, he’s been accused of cheating before, I want him to be caught.

He also said that he thinks Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time, and knows exactly what he’d say to Brady if he ever met him.

If you could share a message with Tom Brady what would you say to him?

Gimme some of your money, you don’t deserve it

https://news.yahoo.com/news/10-year-...184439991.html

Most likely cuz his dad hates Brady and the Patriots.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:34 AM   #146
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Brady's record in the Super Bowl should be 2-5. Not the GOAT.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:39 AM   #147
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The Bills might not agree.
Prolific as in quantity not notoriety
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:09 AM   #148
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I understand. Too many words. Maybe this is bett
Hot damn, how insecure can you be?

obviously, it's off the rails.

grow up, dude, this is no different than the asshole trolls who showed up.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:37 AM   #149
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And five Super Bowl rings. Let's face it, he's the GOAT no matter what he does from here on out. If he goes off the proverbial cliff, then "he should've hung 'em up earlier."
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He had his defense and a made up "tuck rule" carry him his first few seasons.

It's just a matter of time for Patrick Mahomes II to become the GOAT. Everybody in the country knows this except Patriot fans.
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