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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator

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Old 01-28-2019, 03:32 PM   #1261
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Well god knows we need CB help in a major way
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:32 PM   #1262
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I think I may rather keep Ford than Houston at this point too.
Cutting Houston basically covers Ford's franchise tag. Or are you talking about giving Ford a new deal?
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:34 PM   #1263
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Cutting Houston basically covers Ford's franchise tag. Or are you talking about giving Ford a new deal?
No, just the tag.

I'd love to have both, but Houston is older and has had some injury issues. If he doesn't want to lower his number, just cut him and let him go elsewhere.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:35 PM   #1264
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No, just the tag.

I'd love to have both, but Houston is older and has had some injury issues. If he doesn't want to lower his number, just cut him and let him go elsewhere.
Ok....well that pretty much sets the defensive line as:

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Ford

I guess we could just draft a SLB and roll with him, Hitchens and DOD as our LB group.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:42 PM   #1265
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The Jags and the Vikings are kind of prime examples of why it's so damn hard to carry elite defenses from one year to the next. They get so ****ing expensive. Usually it's based on depth why they get so good but guys just get expensive.
Patriots always have good defenses with cheaper, newer players. Colts and Seahawks didn’t have a ton of good players but looked solid.

It’s all about coaching. Let’s hope Spags is that guy.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:42 PM   #1266
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Ok....well that pretty much sets the defensive line as:

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Ford

I guess we could just draft a SLB and roll with him, Hitchens and DOD as our LB group.
guys...If Ford is our RDE playing 3 downs....we're gonna give up a 150 yds a game to the offense running left.

I don't know what you guys were watching all year, but this is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:44 PM   #1267
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guys...If Ford is our RDE playing 3 downs....we're gonna give up a 150 yds a game to the offense running left.

I don't know what you guys were watching all year, but this is a recipe for disaster.
+1

Vastly prefer that line if it subs Houston for Ford.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:45 PM   #1268
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Honestly....I'm at the point where if Houston doesn't take a paycut....he can be gone. And Ford can get tagged and traded.

Grab a guy in FA and draft a guy. Do the same thing for SLB spot.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:45 PM   #1269
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guys...If Ford is our RDE playing 3 downs....we're gonna give up a 150 yds a game to the offense running left.

I don't know what you guys were watching all year, but this is a recipe for disaster.
I hope Ford is playing somewhere else next year. We need the picks worse than we need him.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:46 PM   #1270
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Honestly....I'm at the point where if Houston doesn't take a paycut....he can be gone. And Ford can get tagged and traded.

Grab a guy in FA and draft a guy. Do the same thing for SLB spot.
Yep.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:46 PM   #1271
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I think to survive in the modern NFL, you better be able to build a defense through the draft year in and year out. Maybe there are a couple of players that you try to hold on for their entire careers, but in most cases you need to avoid paying defensive players their second contracts.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:48 PM   #1272
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I think to survive in the modern NFL, you better be able to build a defense through the draft year in and year out. Maybe there are a couple of players that you try to hold on for their entire careers, but in most cases you need to avoid paying defensive players their second contracts.
You only sign guys that are still ascending to 2nd contracts - guys like Chris Jones need a contract.

That being said, I wouldn't sign anybody on defense to a 3rd contract, maybe ever.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:49 PM   #1273
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I think to survive in the modern NFL, you better be able to build a defense through the draft year in and year out. Maybe there are a couple of players that you try to hold on for their entire careers, but in most cases you need to avoid paying defensive players their second contracts.
Bingo. WWBBD?

(what would Bill Belichick do?)

He'd let them all walk, pick up some scrap heap stopgap guys and draft a bunch of guys. This is what you must do when you have a Superstar QB.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:49 PM   #1274
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The guys from Locked on Chiefs seem convinced that Ford is very likely a goner because in the 4-3 under he will be relied on to set the edge on the weak side every play, and he can’t be counted on to do so....

Tag and trade is the most appealing option probably.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:50 PM   #1275
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The guys from Locked on Chiefs seem convinced that Ford is very likely a goner because in the 4-3 under he will be relied on to set the edge on the weak side every play, and he can’t be counted on to do so....

Tag and trade is the most appealing option probably.
Yep. I just think he has to go. Get the picks and move on.
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