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Old 07-24-2017, 07:06 AM  
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Clark Hunt, Brett Veach & Andy Reid press conference
Clark Hunt-10:30 AM
Brett Veach-11 AM
Andy Reid-3 PM

This should be entertaining..
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:13 PM   #181
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Round 1 of this year is the only Dorsey draft I loved on the day. Now, I have loved several of the picks once we got to training camp and the season, but loving the draft? Child, please. There were way too many unknowns picked over highly projected, productive players to really "love" the actual draft.

Results were great, though, a few epic **** ups aside (Carr, the fullback, Russel). Letting David Irving go was also a major screw up, and I'd say not drafting La'el Collins is up there.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:14 PM   #182
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Same question different worded was annoying he answered it and move on.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:18 PM   #183
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Why on Earth did we wait so long AGAIN for a knee surgery? This training staff sucks ass.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:19 PM   #184
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That's just not going to happen. If they remain as good we will be extremely fortunate.

I don't even think Dorsey himself could've improved upon his past couple drafts.
Yeah Dorsey was outstanding with his drafts yet some fans seem to think our drafts might improve. You can argue Dorsey was not alone in the drafting process and you can argue the coaching played a major part in developing the players drafted but you are clueless if you don't see how the Chiefs drafts in Dorsey's tenure were overall outstanding.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:25 PM   #185
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Chris Jones had a scope just like Tamba did last year.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:28 PM   #186
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Why on Earth did we wait so long AGAIN for a knee surgery? This training staff sucks ass.
The problem just came up while Jones was working out on his own a few weeks back. Doesn't sound like it's gonna be a huge issue.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:29 PM   #187
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The problem just came up while Jones was working out on his own a few weeks back. Doesn't sound like it's gonna be a huge issue.
It's just a scope not an operation
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:30 PM   #188
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It's just a scope not a surgery


Arthroscopic surgery is surgery
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:31 PM   #189
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Arthroscopic surgery is surgery
I meant operation. Should of been more clear
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:41 PM   #190
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Why on Earth did we wait so long AGAIN for a knee surgery? This training staff sucks ass.
Well his career is done. Thanks for the 1 year Jones. K Paw it's your turn now
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:43 PM   #191
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I agree 100%. Add to the cap mess Dorsey's tendency to go maverick and you have a good reason to can a GM.
All the reasons you all have mentioned in this thread are right on for sure about Dorsey's shortcomings. But IMHO as I have said before, Clark and Dorsey never liked each other from the get go with Clark feeling like he never had Dorsey's respect as Dorsey looked down over his glasses down his nose at Clark all the time. And over time Dorsey wore on AR as well becoming increasingly frustrated that Dorsey was no yes man to him either, with Dorsey pretty much calling the shots in all the previous drafts/FAs that have been very successful with Reid taking a quiet resentful back seat.

There was a gradual indirect coup overtime where you had personnel staff, players and coaches all going to Clark separately complaining about Dorsey and his "bully my way or the highway ways" and Clark had had enough but was smart enough to take advantage of Dorsey's strength before letting him go prior to the draft.

When you have the owner saying stuff like "needing to get the personnel staff up to the same grade as the coaching staff(my paraphrase of course) that is a HUGE TELL.

This was very personal for Clark in firing Dorsey. And Clark enjoyed every bit of catching Dorsey off guard I assure you.

Just my opinion.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:45 PM   #192
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Let's hope Veach continues the Dorsey draft way. Even if they have issues they can change and be better ala Peters and Hill
It's finally Andy's show now. Veach has no power to override Andy I assure you.
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And may also answer the question as to why IF Clark knew he wanted Dorsey out for a long time why would he let Ballard go, maybe because Ballard like Dorsey is no yes man and both Clark and Andy knew this about Ballard. But Veach on the other hand is a young kid "yes sir Mr. Reid". Just my theory.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:51 PM   #194
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maybe they can sign Carl Petersen.

you know...show 'em the ropes and all.
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And may also answer the question as to why IF Clark knew he wanted Dorsey out for a long time why would he let Ballard go, maybe because Ballard like Dorsey is no yes man and both Clark and Andy knew this about Ballard. But Veach on the other hand is a young kid "yes sir Mr. Reid". Just my theory.
Either Clark wasn't a big Ballard fan either, or Ballard leaving ended up unmasking a number of issues and exposing certain things about Dorsey, and Hunt started taking serious notice at that point. Same thing apparently happened in Carolina where Brandon Beane was the buffer in the organization for Gettleman. Once he left for Buffalo Gettleman became exposed...
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