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Old 07-14-2021, 09:16 PM   #2
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:17 PM   #3
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Old 07-14-2021, 11:35 PM   #4
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Loved the finale. I didn’t want to get my hopes up about Kang after Mephisto, so it was a pleasant surprise to get our first glimpse of Majors in the role (although he will obviously be a different varaint(s) going forward).

It was sad to see Loki get his heart broke, but I love where they’ve gone with the character, and I can’t wait to see his story continue.
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Old 07-14-2021, 11:42 PM   #5
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Old 07-15-2021, 03:24 PM   #6
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I have a lot of mixed feelings after watching the show and reading all of these responses.

I’m glad Loki S2 is confirmed. I was excited for another WandaVision after how it ended and was disappointed to hear there isn’t one. But I’m assuming she/they pop up again?

I didn’t think I’d like post End Game life(I haven’t read the comics), but damn they’ve been crushing it so far and there’s a lot of potential with how both Loki and WandaVision ended to go with the coming movies. Winter Soldier was meh to me. Solid watch but in my opinion nothing compared to these other two.
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Old 07-16-2021, 01:59 AM   #7
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I would guess since the TVA exists outside of time, the MCU time travel rules don't apply.
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Old 07-16-2021, 02:51 AM   #8
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I would guess since the TVA exists outside of time, the MCU time travel rules don't apply.
The timeline was shown as branching at the end though. That an MCU hallmark. The idea that nexus events create alternate universes rather than having one time stream that gets reshaped.
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Old 07-17-2021, 01:57 AM   #9
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The timeline was shown as branching at the end though. That an MCU hallmark. The idea that nexus events create alternate universes rather than having one time stream that gets reshaped.
Right, but my understanding is that the TVA exists outside of that (or any) timestream, and is therefore not part of it.

This is verging on speculation on my part, but if the TVA really exists outside of time, then there wouldn't be real linear time there. There would be no before or after. The experience of linear time within the TVA would have to be artificial, or an illusion. And if there isn't really any before, you can change the past, because it's not really the past. Mobius did say time works differently in the TVA.
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Old 07-17-2021, 02:23 AM   #10
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Right, but my understanding is that the TVA exists outside of that (or any) timestream, and is therefore not part of it.

This is verging on speculation on my part, but if the TVA really exists outside of time, then there wouldn't be real linear time there. There would be no before or after. The experience of linear time within the TVA would have to be artificial, or an illusion. And if there isn't really any before, you can change the past, because it's not really the past. Mobius did say time works differently in the TVA.
OK, I get you. In the TVA there would be no branching but rather a more conventional timeline with malleable cause and effect.
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Old 07-17-2021, 02:51 PM   #11
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I feel there are infinite TVA's along with the infinite multiverses (or at least a set number of TVA's after the first multiversal war), and the job of the TVA is to keep new multiverses spawning out of "their" specific reality and not adding to the mix, whether they knew that was their job or not. Part of the cease fire agreement between the various Kang's, maybe?
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Old 07-17-2021, 09:53 PM   #12
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The timeline was shown as branching at the end though. That an MCU hallmark. The idea that nexus events create alternate universes rather than having one time stream that gets reshaped.
I think the rules apply. But the Tva zaps them to correct them and creates the variants.

The ending starts the multiverse war. I assume dr strange finds him in another universe and brings him back in spiderman or dr strange movie.

He comes into help later on.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:40 PM   #13
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I think the rules apply. But the Tva zaps them to correct them and creates the variants.

The ending starts the multiverse war. I assume dr strange finds him in another universe and brings him back in spiderman or dr strange movie.

He comes into help later on.
IMO, that's why Spider-Man No Way Home will be a 2 part movie concluding with Sam Raimi's Dr Strange into the Multiverse.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:00 PM   #14
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I think the rules apply. But the Tva zaps them to correct them and creates the variants.

The ending starts the multiverse war. I assume dr strange finds him in another universe and brings him back in spiderman or dr strange movie.

He comes into help later on.
He Who Remains said "See you again soon!" just before Sylvie killed him (which also makes me think he was lying when he said that he didn't know what comes next), so the universe, or multiverse, is on an infinite time loop.

I guess this time will be different...?
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Old 07-23-2021, 04:19 AM   #15
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He Who Remains said "See you again soon!" just before Sylvie killed him (which also makes me think he was lying when he said that he didn't know what comes next), so the universe, or multiverse, is on an infinite time loop.

I guess this time will be different...?
I took that to mean that another version of Him would just take his place.
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