***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Perhaps the US will take notice, assuming someone up the chain actually understands the data.

Don't hold your breath.

Hoax.

The rest of the world is overreacting. We are the only country that understands.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oh wow. I have a work colleague who has tested positive.

Nice knowing you brother. If it means anything I appreciated a lot of your posts pre-2016. I will miss you. I hope you have all your life issues in order. Goodbye my friend. God bless.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by TLO

Opinions are like assholes

BWillie has AIDS. His asshole is what put him in this situation to begin with.

[Fat Elvis]

[suzzer99]

At least FB is trying to do something. Twitter DGAF about misinformation.

So of course I'm sure it's time to declare war on FB. Can't have fact-checking in 2020! Facts are whatever we want them to be.

https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3...a-disease.html

Here's he story it leads to.

[Bugeater]

It doesn't matter. Probably been reposted a zillion times and people will believe it because it's on the internet.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oh wow. I have a work colleague who has tested positive.

We're going to need you to replace your avatar with this for the next fourteen days. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

At least FB is trying to do something. Twitter DGAF about misinformation.

So of course I'm sure it's time to declare war on FB. Can't have fact-checking in 2020! Facts are whatever we want them to be.

Ironic.

The same service that thinks there are 52 genders...

[Schnitzel]

I can only report on what’s currently going on here in Europe. I believe many, including myself, have underestimated this virus. It’s not the flu, mortality rates have shown that. And the flu will not just go away, just because CoVid has arrived. Hospitals have to deal with both diseases at the same time. Here in Switzerland, a country with one of the best health care systems in the world, some hospitals have already reached their capacity now, and we are basically one week behind Italy. In Italy, hospitals are considering to start using age limits on ventilators, because there are not enough machines available. Older patients would then just be left to die.

I am not worried about myself, because I’m not part of the risk group. I do know however many persons who are. Panic does not help, but effective measures need to be taken on a government level. It is, however, hard to enforce such measures in the Western World in the same way as in China, especially in a population that still underestimated the situation. Life is not the same anymore here. We will see what will happen when the virus hits overcrowded cities like NYC.

Is the US health system up for the task? Is the health system anywhere up for the task?

[Rausch]

Here is a link to medical professionals briefing a group of organized crime and sex offenders about C19 (as of March 6.)

It sounds an awful lot like what was discussed earlier in the year at the Event 201 conference.

[PunkinDrublic]

If you could have sex with any woman in the world but she has full blown Coronavirus and sneezing and coughing would you do it?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

If you could have sex with any woman in the world but she has full blown Coronavirus and sneezing and coughing would you do it?

If I could have sex with any woman in the world I'd pick one that doesn't have it...

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by Rausch

If I could have sex with any woman in the world I'd pick one that doesn't have it...

Of course we all would. But under the conditions I stated would you?

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Of course we all would. But under the conditions I stated would you?

As long as it’s the best sex ever, of course. 80% of the cases are mild, cold or less... 15% are pneumonia levels and 5% are critical...

If you are a healthy individual without underlying health conditions, should be an easy yes.

Now if you are 60+ with health problems I would think twice. Italy is getting hit hard because most of their population is old (the oldest in the European Union)

Breakdown of deaths can be found here:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

45% of deaths had an underlying health issue including cardiovascular, cancer, diabetes, etc
22% of deaths are 80+ year olds (almost 1/4)

[eDave]

Went to a Clan Of Xymox concert tonight. Packed house. No masks. Shared my vape with a few peeps.