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Old 02-26-2015, 07:48 PM   #2
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Gee, I thought you said self regulation wasn't working. Seems like it and competition is working just fine.

Perhaps you don't need the FCC to come in and screw everything up.
You really don't seem to understand this ruling. You and Just Passing By.

Maybe it's a Massachusssets thing.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:52 PM   #3
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You really don't seem to understand this ruling. You and Just Passing By.
Considering that it is 300+ pages instead of a few defining what Net Neutrality is. I am guessing there is a whole lot more to it than that. Even then, more regulation means more compliance costs which drive out new competition leaving the large companies entrenched.

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I am not from Massachusetts but I wouldn't think a Scandinavian would understand that there is more than one place called Gloucester.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:52 PM   #4
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You really don't seem to understand this ruling. You and Just Passing By.

Maybe it's a Massachusssets thing.
I think there is a ton of misinformation being put out by right wing media. Hannity had a politician on the other night spouting total nonsense similar to what these guys are saying.

There's a lot of information out there, but it takes time to understand this issue. Too many people think they are informed by soundbites.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:48 PM   #5
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Gee, I thought you said self regulation wasn't working. Seems like it and competition is working just fine.

Perhaps you don't need the FCC to come in and screw everything up.
You wouldn't mind ISPs being able to favor certain content so that some is faster than others?
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:54 PM   #6
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You wouldn't mind ISPs being able to favor certain content so that some is faster than others?
I would actually. If I am a gamer I would want my ISP to favor my gaming packets. If I like streaming videos, I want my ISP to favor those. If I have VOIP I want my ISP to favor that.

There are very good reasons why a customer would want their ISP to favor one type of packet over another.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:31 AM   #7
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You wouldn't mind ISPs being able to favor certain content so that some is faster than others?
Gloucester Chief thinks crack should be legal. He's an extremist libertarian if not anarcho-capitalist. He doesn't think the govt should have a role in anything except protecting his property.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:46 PM   #8
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I have went from 40mbps to 70mps in 1 1/2 years down here for the same price. Every time someone else comes into the market and offers more bandwidth for cheaper, TWC bumps up their bandwidth.

Let the free market rein. Seems like that would be straight out of the Republican dogma.
Um that seems to conflict with some of your other posts. Just saying....
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:59 PM   #9
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Um that seems to conflict with some of your other posts. Just saying....
This is not about companies. Or about their right to charge whatever they want to charge for that bandwidth. They are free to charge whatever they want for their bandwidth. It just has to charge every customer the same rate and not throttle their content unless they pay more than everyone else. And if you don't pay more.....we will throttle you and ruin your business, so pay us pal or else. If every company is doing this to every customer, there is no fair market.

Again, maybe its a Fox News misinformation thing, It's about double charging for that bandwidth. And huge corporations being able to buy up all the bandwidth and squeeze out small businesses.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:05 PM   #10
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Again, maybe its a Fox News misinformation thing, It's about double charging for that bandwidth. And huge corporations being able to buy up all the bandwidth and squeeze out small businesses.
Exactly. Had this law not gone into effect, massive corporations with virtually unlimited resources could put the little internet guy out of business quickly.

So for now, it remains a level playing field.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:04 PM   #11
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Holy ****. There are people still arguing that this is a bad thing?
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According to USA Today, no one outside of the FCC has actually seen the 317-322 pages regarding this regulation. I will be curious to see what else is in there. The main issues everyone who seems to champion seems to be a no brainer and you have to wonder why it would take a year and 322 pages to say that ISP's cannot sell preferential treatment?
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:10 PM   #13
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According to USA Today, no one outside of the FCC has actually seen the 317-322 pages regarding this regulation. I will be curious to see what else is in there. The main issues everyone who seems to champion seems to be a no brainer and you have to wonder why it would take a year and 322 pages to say that ISP's cannot sell preferential treatment.
This is definitely a concern.

No telling what kind of shit people have tried to sneak in there.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:15 PM   #14
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According to USA Today, no one outside of the FCC has actually seen the 317-322 pages regarding this regulation. I will be curious to see what else is in there. The main issues everyone who seems to champion seems to be a no brainer and you have to wonder why it would take a year and 322 pages to say that ISP's cannot sell preferential treatment?
Well, the law about gas container regulations was 250 pages...
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:16 PM   #15
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As I said in the DC thread this is a good thing and I support it but there will be unintended consequences from their action. It had to happen though to keep the ISP's from killing content providers like Netflix, Amazon etc and also to allow me to continue to watch porn without all the stuttering and downloading bittorrents.
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