***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

The suck part is the numbers for recovery in this country are going to take a while before they start to appear and outpace deaths. We can expect lock downs until that happens I would assume.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The only thing I want to do at this point is just spend time with my wife and girls.

It's all that really matters.

[Marcellus]

Hell according to the known data only 150,000 people world wide are currently infected because 100,000 have already reached outcome.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Hell according to the known data only 150,000 people world wide are currently infected because 100,000 have already reached outcome.

That would be accurate. There are approximately 155,000 active cases world wide right now

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Same thing in Lee’s Summit yesterday. Doubt it is factory deliveries.

Doesn’t everyone want them to get their equipment staged in the proper places to prepare for this? Whether it’s factory deliveries or they’re moving equipment to get ready for deployments to help fight the bug, isn’t that what we want?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You have been playing Plague Inc haven’t you? 😁

No but that’s virology 101

If it’s that deadly the host dies before it can spread that far or fast. If it kills quickly that is

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Restaurants, bars, theaters in entire Kansas City metro to close for 15 days

https://www.kctv5.com/coronavirus/re...54d3ef045.html

I thought they already did this?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Doesn’t everyone want them to get their equipment staged in the proper places to prepare for this? Whether it’s factory deliveries or they’re moving equipment to get ready for deployments to help fight the bug, isn’t that what we want?

You think tanks are needed to fight a virus?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You think tanks are needed to fight a virus?

It's spooky no matter how you look at it.

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by petegz28

In the time it would take to identify 25 million people being infected, a ton of them would have already dropped dead or would have been sick and recovered.

I think it was a bit irresponsible to throw out that number. Then shortly after to put the entire state on a "shelter in place" policy. Almost like one was said to help justify the other.

I was with you until the end-- if the inference of your statement is that he had some nefarious motive for keeping people inside. I think it was using a worst-case-scenario (where nobody social distances and life had never been impacted by Covid) to hammer home to people how important the social distancing/isolation technique is to stemming the flow. It's not the most intellectually honest argument (at least the way I've laid it out; maybe I misunderstood it) but it's not the worst approach to getting people to understand the impact. You have to realize that there are a TON of people out there with zero grasp about how infectious diseases work and their role in its transmission/proliferation.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You think tanks are needed to fight a virus?

i'd say they are to stop the idiots while the virus is going on

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

I was with you until the end-- if the inference of your statement is that he had some nefarious motive for keeping people inside. I think it was using a worst-case-scenario (where nobody social distances and life had never been impacted by Covid) to hammer home to people how important the social distancing/isolation technique is to stemming the flow. It's not the most intellectually honest argument (at least the way I've laid it out; maybe I misunderstood it) but it's not the worst approach to getting people to understand the impact. You have to realize that there are a TON of people out there with zero grasp about how infectious diseases work and their role in its transmission/proliferation.

I won't get into this discussion here because it is a non-political thread.

[KCUnited]

Tough times don't last; tough people do

[Sorry]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You think tanks are needed to fight a virus?

Just imagine being in a war and America brings in some heavy machinery lol Mercia baby

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You think tanks are needed to fight a virus?

Those aren't tanks.