***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KChiefs1]

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Made a special trip to 1 this last summer when I was up there. It's really ****ing food.

I like a snack after ****ing, too.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I like a snack after ****ing, too.

I assumed he meant really ****ing good but I like your interpretation better.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

It's spreading like a virus from hell

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I used to eat there fairly often, but any more if I want a sandwich I usually go to Arbys. Which location did you go to?

North 90 it wasnt very far away from the highway as I recall

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I like a snack after ****ing, too.

I'd like to grab 1 and we ****

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

If they don’t shut that ****ing subway down, NY alone could lose 100,000 people to this Covid19 and people from that state will leave during the incubation stage and spread that virus like wildfire to the rest of the eastern seaboard and into the Midwest.

How is it still possible they haven’t shut down the subways to everyone but medical staff?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

North 90 it wasnt very far away from the highway as I recall

Yep it's not far from I-680, kind of out of the way though unless you were already in that part of town for some other reason. I'm surprised you weren't at the one by me because it's right off of I-80 where most people traveling through town would likely end up.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yep it's not far from I-680, kind of out of the way though unless you were already in that part of town for some other reason. I'm surprised you weren't at the one by me because it's right off of I-80 where most people traveling through town would likely end up.

Was helping my aunt move shit into her new apartment over by there

[PAChiefsGuy]

Fascinating isnt it?

Viruses are not living things. Viruses are complicated assemblies of molecules, including proteins, nucleic acids, lipids, and carbohydrates, but on their own they can do nothing until they enter a living cell. Without cells, viruses would not be able to multiply. Therefore, viruses are not living things.

When a virus encounters a cell, a series of chemical reactions occur that lead to the production of new viruses. These steps are completely passive, that is, they are predefined by the nature of the molecules that comprise the virus particle. Viruses don’t actually ‘do’ anything. Often scientists and non-scientists alike ascribe actions to viruses such as employing, displaying, destroying, evading, exploiting, and so on. These terms are incorrect because viruses are passive, completely at the mercy of their environment.

http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Was helping my aunt move shit into her new apartment over by there

Well wtf? You didn't come up and help me move.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well wtf? You didn't come up and help me move.

You never asked but sorry bro social distancing and stuff lol

[BigRedChief]

Lack of PPE’s are still a huge issue.

This is chilling. A nurse on the front lines in Chicago tried to wear her own N95 to work while caring for COVID pts (when it wasn’t supplied for her) & she was told by management she would not be allowed to. She quit her job. @DrMarthaGulati @CMichaelGibson @boback @netta_doc pic.twitter.com/eEVF8JNwGm

— Danielle Belardo, MD (@DBelardoMD) March 31, 2020

[BigRedChief]

We have extra FDA-approved ventilators. Will ship to hospitals worldwide within Tesla delivery regions. Device & shipping cost are free. Only requirement is that the vents are needed immediately for patients, not stored in a warehouse. Please me or @Tesla know.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 31, 2020

[Ghost of Maslowski]

just came across this the other day and found it very informative. didn't and won't check for Q so whatever. run time is 1hr. first half is all info from a Dr. in NYC that deals with this crap all day, every day. second half the same guy does a sort of AMA. good info there as well.