***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Monticore

There is that but our population density outside of Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver is pretty low. The sun would be nice about now having been stuck in the house for about 6 months unless you snowmobile, ski or ice fish.

This time of year there isn't a lot of outdoor activities available, too cold or too much snow for golf/soccer/baseball and other summer stuff , lakes still frozen over and fishing is closed till may 21, but also too wet and not enough snow for skiing and snowmobiling.

I live in cottage country next to lake Nipissing one the biggest fresh water lakes in Ontario , it will be interesting to see if the big city folks flock up here to escape their apartments when it warms up.

So what...you have like 3 months where it's not winter? **** that noise.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

There is that but our population density outside of Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver is pretty low. The sun would be nice about now having been stuck in the house for about 6 months unless you snowmobile, ski or ice fish.

This time of year there isn't a lot of outdoor activities available, too cold or too much snow for golf/soccer/baseball and other summer stuff , lakes still frozen over and fishing is closed till may 21, but also too wet and not enough snow for skiing and snowmobiling.

I live in cottage country next to lake Nipissing one the biggest fresh water lakes in Ontario , it will be interesting to see if the big city folks flock up here to escape their apartments when it warms up.

Closed? No ice fishing?

[2112]

City morgue nearing capacity in New York City (yikes). They’re bringing in refrigerator trucks

[petegz28]

****ing media

"Best case scenario 100k deaths..."

Dr. Facui when asked should we prepare for 100k deaths, "That is a possibility"

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

****ing media

"Best case scenario 100k deaths..."

Dr. Facui when asked should we prepare for 100k deaths, "That is a possibility"

What's wrong with that prediction?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

****ing media

"Best case scenario 100k deaths..."

Dr. Facui when asked should we prepare for 100k deaths, "That is a possibility"

The media is just reporting what the Trump administration is telling them. I know reality is hard for you but 100k deaths or more is clearly a possibility.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

What's wrong with that prediction?

Read what I said again. The media said it was the "Best case scenario". Dr. Fauci said it was a "possibility". I never heard the words "best case scenario" come from him.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

The media is just reporting what the Trump administration is telling them. I know reality is hard for you but 100k deaths or more is clearly a possibility.

Dude, I thought you were putting me on ignore? Please . You obviously didn't read what I said.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude, I thought you were putting me on ignore? Please . You obviously didn't read what I said.

I did read what you said. Show me the article where the media says best case scenario 100k deaths?

Even with blanket nationwide adoption of stringent mitigation efforts, between 100,000 and 240,000 Americans could face death in the coming weeks in a cascading nationwide ordeal, according to modeling explained by senior members of the President's emergency task force Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/polit...rus/index.html

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

****ing media

"Best case scenario 100k deaths..."

Dr. Facui when asked should we prepare for 100k deaths, "That is a possibility"

you obviously didnt watch the whole press conference. or youre being disingenuous



fauci repeatedly said that he thought we would do better with social distancing then we have and that hope made him say we can do better

but when the reporter asked "what is the best case with what we are doing right now?" all 3 (birx, fauci, trump all immediately pointed at the board and said "that IS the best case in our models" and fauci was also asked if the country could handle 100k deaths in the next 2 months and he responded " thats the reality of the situation"

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 007

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksn...ronavirus/amp/

Our local hospital just announced paycuts.

I don't see anything wrong with how they handled that, most of those people should get the lost money back from unemployment with the spending bill.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Read what I said again. The media said it was the "Best case scenario". Dr. Fauci said it was a "possibility". I never heard the words "best case scenario" come from him.

then you werent watching close, or only hearing what you want to hear. either way you are wrong.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I did read what you said. Show me the article where the media says best case scenario 100k deaths?

Even with blanket nationwide adoption of stringent mitigation efforts, between 100,000 and 240,000 Americans could face death in the coming weeks in a cascading nationwide ordeal, according to modeling explained by senior members of the President's emergency task force Tuesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/polit...rus/index.html

I just watched it on TV. So instead of insulting me and assuming I said something I didn't, why don't you ask the question "where did you see best case scenario"?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

So what...you have like 3 months where it's not winter? **** that noise.

Kind of lol, we start golf end may but with black fly/deer fly/mosquito season I figure july and august are actually enjoyable when you are out there.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

you obviously didnt watch the whole press conference. or youre being disingenuous



fauci repeatedly said that he thought we would do better with social distancing then we have and that hope made him say we can do better

but when the reporter asked "what is the best case with what we are doing right now?" all 3 (birx, fauci, trump all immediately pointed at the board and said "that IS the best case in our models" and fauci was also asked if the country could handle 100k deaths in the next 2 months and he responded " thats the reality of the situation"

I didn't see that part. Might have been nice for them show them saying that in the report.