***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....20.20157149v1

So this is basically saying people with no time around kids and their sniffly coronavirus colds have a higher incidence of severe infections.

Interesting

Is it current, consistent exposure to kids or could it be someone who is older now but taught for 30 years?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

What part of this is the issue?

Health department guidelines are all those exposed are suppose to be isolated for 14 days not .

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[TLO]

Our local hospital chain today announced they are offering free antibody testing for anyone who wants it. I have so many questions about the antibody test. Are they at a point where they can measure T cells and B cells?

[suzzer99]

Supposedly it's hard to get a false positive. That's about the only thing you can say for antibody tests right now afaik. A negative test could mean false negative, or it could mean you had it and never developed antibodies. And even if you have antibodies - know one knows how long they last and whether or not you're susceptible again when they wear off.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Health department guidelines are all those exposed are suppose to be isolated for 14 days not .

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Not the case I am pretty sure you need to be a close contact which requires 15 minutes within 6 ft, or as Donger posted someone coughing in your face.

What county are you in?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not the case I am pretty sure you need to be a close contact which requires 15 minutes within 6 ft, or as Donger posted someone coughing in your face.

What county are you in?

Dude that is almost straight from the Arkansas Department of Health website. The CDC says basically the same thing with exceptions for critical infrastructure personnel.

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[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Supposedly it's hard to get a false positive. That's about the only thing you can say for antibody tests right now afaik. A negative test could mean false negative, or it could mean you had it and never developed antibodies. And even if you have antibodies - know one knows how long they last and whether or not you're susceptible again when they wear off.

I understand that the antibodies wear off, but that's why I ask about the B and T cells. Those in theory would be the protection from being reinfected. (I think I'm understanding that correctly)

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Our local hospital chain today announced they are offering free antibody testing for anyone who wants it. I have so many questions about the antibody test. Are they at a point where they can measure T cells and B cells?

Off topic, numbers yesterday were pretty good.

[petegz28]

So the person that died in the pediatric unit at KU Med over the weekend appears to have been 20 years old. No specifics on underlyings or anything just see what was reported by the state.

That is the youngest person to die from Covid in Kansas.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TLO

Our local hospital chain today announced they are offering free antibody testing for anyone who wants it. I have so many questions about the antibody test. Are they at a point where they can measure T cells and B cells?

It could let you Know if you’ve recent had the virus and either didn’t know it, or produced a false negative on a swab test. I still think it’s good to do if it’s free.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Off topic, numbers yesterday were pretty good.

Today looks decent too. We'll see how we finish up the day and look at how much we rebound tomorrow.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Dude that is almost straight from the Arkansas Department of Health website. The CDC says basically the same thing with exceptions for critical infrastructure personnel.

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"Dude" literally from the Arkansas Dept of Health websight-




https://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/pro...ontact-tracing

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Is it current, consistent exposure to kids or could it be someone who is older now but taught for 30 years?

I would say current but I dunno. It would seem the more exposed the better so for instance a teacher of that long should have something?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by TLO

I understand that the antibodies wear off, but that's why I ask about the B and T cells. Those in theory would be the protection from being reinfected. (I think I'm understanding that correctly)

Like most things with covid - maybe!

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

"Dude" literally from the Arkansas Dept of Health websight-









https://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/pro...ontact-tracing

Not sure why you went there with the contact tracing. This is about people that were exposed. I am on my phone so I can't do like you did but when I get home I will send a link to the article on that website that I am referencing.

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