***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Merde Furieux

For somebody with a low IQ such as yourself, yes, that is definitely your speed.

Dude seriously take yourself back to your little hangout as I've literally never seen you post anything else of substance here ever. It's sorta nice you felt the urge to crawl out of the hole to see what the rest of the world is like here on Chiefsplanet, but I think it's about time for that to be over now.

I don't feel the need to have to engage with your dumbass in the lounge, nor do I think many others do either.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

If you havent yet, well, probably too late to start stockpiling a deep freeze worth of meat.

No doubt. I by a half a beef every year and we are on the low side... shitty timing. I bought a large brisket at the store last night, and the coolers and the meat counter looked reasonably full, but I agree I think shortages are coming, probably more on pork and chicken...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Merde Furieux

For somebody with a low IQ such as yourself, yes, that is definitely your speed.

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dude seriously take yourself back to your little hangout as I've literally never seen you post anything else of substance here ever. It's sorta nice you felt the urge to crawl out of the hole to see what the rest of the world is like here on Chiefsplanet, but I think it's about time for that to be over now.

I don't feel the need to have to engage with your dumbass in the lounge, nor do I think many others do either.

He's just jabbing at people's intelligence and posting some funny shit . . .

[Merde Furieux]

Originally Posted by Donger

You're welcome to put a $$$ value on acceptable deaths.

I do every single time I get behind the wheel of my car and enter traffic. It's called calculated risk. I don't need a bureaucrat or a governor halfwit ordering me to walk everywhere because I might get in a car wreck and kill somebody.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

**** all those people for getting old too.

Underlying health conditions are much more significant in terms of the primary cause of hospitalizations/deaths from COVID-19 than age.

[notorious]

I thought I accidentally opened the DC forum.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Underlying health conditions are much more significant in terms of the primary cause of hospitalizations/deaths from COVID-19 than age.

So **** poor people then?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by notorious

I thought I accidentally opened the DC forum.

Some folk got that maple syrup in 'em this mornin.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

He's just jabbing at people's intelligence and posting some funny shit . . .

His shit is not nearly as funny as mine so lets stop there.

[Merde Furieux]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't feel the need to have to engage with you.

An yet, here we are.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It seems selfish that everyone has to social distance and shut down the economy to preserve hospital capacity mostly for people who don't take personal responsibility for their health with proper diet, not smoking, etc.

What about the people who can't afford their bills because they were living beyond their means(owned a lot of debt/toys/gun collections) and didn't stash enough cash away don't deserve our sympathy because of their lifestyle choice.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So **** poor people then?

The socioeconomic excuse for eating a poor diet and not taking care of yourself is almost as much of a crutch as the "genetics" excuse.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by notorious

I thought I accidentally opened the DC forum.

Well as with any topic that has some level of disagreement, especially when information is spotty and there is a ton of unknown, there will be arguments and disagreements in discourse.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Monticore

What about the people who can't afford their bills because they were living beyond their means(owned a lot of debt/toys/gun collections) and didn't stash enough cash away don't deserve our sympathy because of their lifestyle choice.

Are we social distancing for those people?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The socioeconomic excuse for eating a poor diet and not taking care of yourself is almost as much of a crutch as the "genetics" excuse.

Actually it's not, lots of terrible shit people eat is because it's cheap as **** and they got jack shit for money.

Not saying everyone has this excuse, but if you think people who live in poverty eat well, bad news.