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Old 04-09-2016, 08:18 AM  
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Terez Paylors mock draft
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25. Pittsburgh Steelers: CB William Jackson III, Houston

The Steelers’ corners are competent, but smallish. A guy like Jackson, who features good speed and had great ball production in college, will give them another capable body to match up against some of the bigger receivers in the AFC North.

26. Seattle Seahawks: DT Jarran Reed, Alabama

Getting a young run-stuffer like Reed, who is very stout against the ground game and has a little pass-rush upside, would be a steal at this point.

27. Green Bay Packers: DT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech

With B.J. Raji’s recent retirement, the Packers could go for an interior defensive lineman. A true nose like Andrew Billings of Baylor could fit the bill, but Butler’s versatility gives him the edge. With good coaching, he has the size (6-4, 323) and athleticism to contribute at multiple spots.

28. Kansas City Chiefs: DT Chris Jones, Mississippi State

With the signing of tackle Mitchell Schwartz, the Chiefs appear to be set there. And the recent additions of Jimmy Wilson and Stevie Brown could keep the Chiefs from investing in a safety this high unless they really like a guy (perhaps West Virginia’s Karl Joseph or Ohio State’s Vonn Bell).

That leaves a cornerback (Eli Apple?) and, perhaps to a lesser extent, an outside linebacker as likely choices. But don’t forget defensive line. While the re-signing of defensive lineman Jaye Howard eases the need for reinforcements at that position, we wouldn’t rule out an early investment there due to Dontari Poe’s looming free agency. The Chiefs have not re-signed Mike DeVito, and while Nick Williams deserves more reps — and 2015 late-round pick Rakeem Nunez-Roches could also carve out a role— there’s still room for another versatile, athletic lineman in the rotation. With La. Tech’s Vernon Butler already off the board, Jones could be a fit.

Jones is a huge guy with a thick frame, at 6 feet 6 and 310 pounds, and he flashes quickness and strength plus powerful hands. He has the traits to play nose, which would even allow Poe to shift to the three-tech on occasion. His sack number (2 1/2 ) in 2015 was underwhelming, but if he can develop a feel for his pass-rush moves, watch out — the physical traits are there to be a good pass-rusher.

29. Arizona Cardinals: CB Eli Apple, Ohio State

Apple definitely looks the part of an NFL corner, at 6 feet 1 and 199 pounds, and while he is raw, he has the physical tools to mature into a very good man-to-man corner in the Cardinals’ scheme.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:20 AM   #2
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If they feel their current corners are on th up and up, Jones would be nice
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:57 PM   #3
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I haven't followed college football over the last couple of years like I used to, but as I look at some draft websites, I see that Eli Apple is ranked in most in the top 25, while Chris Jones doesn't show up in anyone's top 32.

If they do a top 50 or 100, he shows up in the 40s.

If that is the case, then passing on Apple for Jones would seem pretty stupid.
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:59 PM   #4
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Chris Jones has been set as a 4th to 5th rounder on every mock and evaluation I've seen.

This is a really bad selection.
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:22 PM   #5
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Chris Jones has been set as a 4th to 5th rounder on every mock and evaluation I've seen.

This is a really bad selection.
WTF are you talking about. Chris Jones has been a late 1st/2nd round pick for the majority of the draft process.
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:23 PM   #6
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i have never been impressed with terez-seems to be a bandwagon writer. I guess this is what happens when he does his own homework.
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:31 PM   #7
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WTF are you talking about. Chris Jones has been a late 1st/2nd round pick for the majority of the draft process.
I keep seeing him as a 4th rounder, probably because he was arrested twice in March
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:32 PM   #8
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Yeah, I've seen him in that 1st 2nd round area. Althougj, I haven't really paid attention to him as I don't really feel the chiefs would take him after the arrests
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:52 PM   #9
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I can't see Dorsey passing on Eli Apple, either, who looks to be a #2 starting cornerback at worst.

As I've mentioned in other threads, the dropoff in cornerback talent from round 1 to 2 is much steeper than DT/DE.

Terez likes to change his selection from week to week so I'd be surprised if he sticks with Jones throughout this whole process, especially given the arrests.
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I can't see Dorsey passing on Eli Apple, either, who looks to be a #2 starting cornerback at worst.

As I've mentioned in other threads, the dropoff in cornerback talent from round 1 to 2 is much steeper than DT/DE.

Terez likes to change his selection from week to week so I'd be surprised if he sticks with Jones throughout this whole process, especially given the arrests.
I'm interested to see how the corners go. From what I've read and aeen, some of those 2nd 3rd round corners are high upside low floor type guys.

As much as I hate to do it, we need a starting outside corner now. Of they can, I think I'd go corner early
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:15 AM   #11
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but if he can develop a feel for his pass-rush moves, watch out — the physical traits are there to be a good pass-rusher.
This right here kills the sell. Why take a guy that "might" develop pass rush moves over guys like Apple or Bell that are game ready NOW? Pass.
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That would be a TERRIBLE pick.

Too early at a position that's way too deep. Even if you think Jones is a 1st round talent (he isnt), there will be a player almost exactly like him available at the back of the second and I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar player still there in the third.

That would be a truly awful selection.
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Passing on Apple would be ****ing stupid.
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Passing on Apple would be ****ing stupid.
I read that somewhere.
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