Duncan Idaho's Compendium of Comprehensive Offseason Plans

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Meant to upvote, fat fingers, sorry

Dick!

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

How do you intend to address the WR room?

You can't 'run it back' with this team. And if you retain Sneed and Jones, that's what you're committing to.

A) 'Run it back' rarely works
B) This ain't a good enough squad to do that with anyway.

It needs a fairly significant roster shakeup and bringing back both Sneed and Jones will prevent that.

Like O.City says, if you keep Jones and Sneed you can afford to draft a WR RD 1 or flip a pick for a guy like Hopkins. TEN might be more willing to do so now that Vrabel is out. If you go with a RD 1 WR maybe you find some money for a small contract for a guy like Renfrow to be your #3. Likewise, if you can get a guy like Hopkins you can go OT in RD 1 and wait until the mid-rounds for a #3 WR.

Also restructuring doesn't have to be catastrophic for the future of our cap. For instance, if you convert $10m of Mahomes Salary to Signing Bonus then that $10m is now spread from 2024 season at $10m, to the next 5 seasons at $2m each, and if the cap is going up by say $20m a year then you're good. The impact becomes less and less each season as long as you don't abuse it too much.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Like O.City says, if you keep Jones and Sneed you can afford to draft a WR RD 1 or flip a pick for a guy like Hopkins. TEN might be more willing to do so now that Vrabel is out. If you go with a RD 1 WR maybe you find some money for a small contract for a guy like Renfrow to be your #3. Likewise, if you can get a guy like Hopkins you can go OT in RD 1 and wait until the mid-rounds for a #3 WR.

Also restructuring doesn't have to be catastrophic for the future of our cap. For instance, if you convert $10m of Mahomes Salary to Signing Bonus then that $10m is now spread from 2024 season at $10m, to the next 5 seasons at $2m each, and if the cap is going up by say $20m a year then you're good. The impact becomes less and less each season as long as you don't abuse it too much.

I'd add that this might be the right strategy with J. Taylor. He's leading the league in penalties and not impressing anyone. We're locked into a sizable contract with him until at least next offseason. If he's absolutely terrible in the playoffs maybe you decide to cut your loss but need cap space to replace him, so maybe you restructure and bench or cut him, and bring in someone else with that cap space and pay the dead cap price for Taylor's restructure over the next 5 years. Not ideal, but something you might do to reduce the impact of a potentially poor decision.

[O.city]

Draft a guy, flip a pick to the Titans for Hopkins.

I don't think they can bring back Jones at that #, but he's still an elite player and that's gonna sting losing him.

[kccrow]

Jones recent comment about this maybe being his last game at Arrowhead kind of puts some writing on the wall. I don't think he's back, and at his number we probably shouldn't. He's a great player, no doubt, but sinking 28+ into a DT is tough to do.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Jones recent comment about this maybe being his last game at Arrowhead kind of puts some writing on the wall. I don't think he's back, and at his number we probably shouldn't. He's a great player, no doubt, but sinking 28+ into a DT is tough to do.

I think when you step back to the big picture there is a lot of merit to investing draft capital at interior pass rusher, EDGE, WR, OL, and CB and filling the roster through free agency around that. (assuming you have solved for QB). Like bang for buck wise. Such a strategy should enable you to have a much deeper roster just given the premium teams are paying for the positions you focus on drafting.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think when you step back to the big picture there is a lot of merit to investing draft capital at interior pass rusher, EDGE, WR, OL, and CB and filling the roster through free agency around that. (assuming you have solved for QB). Like bang for buck wise. Such a strategy should enable you to have a much deeper roster just given the premium teams are paying for the positions you focus on drafting.

It's great in theory, but it just requires you to hit on a really high number of draft picks. It's just tough.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's great in theory, but it just requires you to hit on a really high number of draft picks. It's just tough.

Hey, guess what?

If you don't hit on a high number of draft picks, you're ****ed in the NFL.

you can't just spend your way to multiple championships in the NFL. You can MAYBE buy one. Ask The Rams.

You can spend what SHOULD have bought you a Super Bowl and still not get there, ask The Cowboys.

To have sustained success, you damned well better draft well.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Hey, guess what?

If you don't hit on a high number of draft picks, you're ****ed in the NFL.

you can't just spend your way to multiple championships in the NFL. You can MAYBE buy one. Ask The Rams.

You can spend what SHOULD have bought you a Super Bowl and still not get there, ask The Cowboys.

To have sustained success, you damned well better draft well.

There's a reason no one has kept drafting their way to it either.

The odds are, you're eventually gonna draft some shit birds.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I think when you step back to the big picture there is a lot of merit to investing draft capital at interior pass rusher, EDGE, WR, OL, and CB and filling the roster through free agency around that. (assuming you have solved for QB). Like bang for buck wise. Such a strategy should enable you to have a much deeper roster just given the premium teams are paying for the positions you focus on drafting.

I agree largely. I don't know if I care too much about investing large amounts of capital in DT but ER, WR, OT, and CB I am 100% on board with. Keep em churning and developing. DT, RB, LB, S and IOL are relatively cheap in FA comparatively even if they are really good players. You only really pay high dollar for exceptional as those positions.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree largely. I don't know if I care too much about investing large amounts of capital in DT but ER, WR, OT, and CB I am 100% on board with. Keep em churning and developing. DT, RB, LB, S and IOL are relatively cheap in FA comparatively even if they are really good players. You only really pay high dollar for exceptional as those positions.

Yeah.

Two or three good players at those positions for what ONE at a premium position costs. Better be hitting on those in the draft.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree largely. I don't know if I care too much about investing large amounts of capital in DT but ER, WR, OT, and CB I am 100% on board with. Keep em churning and developing. DT, RB, LB, S and IOL are relatively cheap in FA comparatively even if they are really good players. You only really pay high dollar for exceptional as those positions.

It's why I'd move on from Justin Reid and feel pretty casual about letting someone like Gay walk. If you stumble upon elite players at those positions fine, maybe you try and keep them. Otherwise keep churning and developing. Cam Jones looked like he could be a very reliable run-stuffing LB in that Chargers game as an example

[Couch-Potato]

Pete Caroll out for SEA... Maybe Lockett gets let go to save cap space. They're pressed up against the cap with only $1.5m and he's due for a new contract.

[O.city]

They drafted him in the first, he's gonna play. They can't sign Danna and let the best man win, they need that money elsewhere.