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Old 04-18-2024, 05:44 PM   #2
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Welcome kid who's coming to his 7th school in 7 years, please don't suck for the 5 months you're in Lawrence before moving onto your next dream $chool.

If he wants to come score another 18 points a game, I don’t care what he does after this year.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:33 PM   #3
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If he wants to come score another 18 points a game, I don’t care what he does after this year.
I saw a few comments from Wisconsin fans along the lines of "live by the Storr and die by the Storr," because he's pretty much all about himself... and maybe that's just being on Wisconsin, but they were mentioning his <1 assist per game and how he'll lose games for you before passing the ball.

It'll be interesting to see what Self does for him in that regard.

And I'm under no delusion that money wasn't a primary factor for players before NIL, but the old fart in me doesn't love the idea of all the roster turnover and guys in new systems every year and so forth. And it's similar to some of the one and dones of the past... they don't give a shit if they win a NC for KU or not and you throw out all of the experience of playing in a system with the same coach and players around you for one shot at something (obviously if they do, then yay... just seems like a losing battle in that regard).
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:59 PM   #4
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I saw a few comments from Wisconsin fans along the lines of "live by the Storr and die by the Storr," because he's pretty much all about himself... and maybe that's just being on Wisconsin, but they were mentioning his <1 assist per game and how he'll lose games for you before passing the ball.

It'll be interesting to see what Self does for him in that regard.

And I'm under no delusion that money wasn't a primary factor for players before NIL, but the old fart in me doesn't love the idea of all the roster turnover and guys in new systems every year and so forth. And it's similar to some of the one and dones of the past... they don't give a shit if they win a NC for KU or not and you throw out all of the experience of playing in a system with the same coach and players around you for one shot at something (obviously if they do, then yay... just seems like a losing battle in that regard).
Some of my favorite KU players were guys who waited their turn and developed in the program to become stars: T Rob, Frank Mason, Devonte Graham, Ochai Agbaji come to mind.

Sadly, I don’t see any of those guys (except maybe Agbaji because he’s a Kansas kid) sticking around in today’s game.

They’d all be recruited over through the portal and probably leave after a year of not getting enough playing time.
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:28 PM   #5
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Some of my favorite KU players were guys who waited their turn and developed in the program to become stars: T Rob, Frank Mason, Devonte Graham, Ochai Agbaji come to mind.

Sadly, I don’t see any of those guys (except maybe Agbaji because he’s a Kansas kid) sticking around in today’s game.

They’d all be recruited over through the portal and probably leave after a year of not getting enough playing time.
Yeah, and I guess we'll see how it works out in the long run... the benefit is you're getting more guys who aren't fresh out of high school (and then bolt) and already have some college experience.

But yeah, you think way back to where that 2008 team started, or the guys you mentioned... it's special to watch over the course of a few years while maybe plugging in a one-and-done guy; not (so far) the other way around.
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Old 04-19-2024, 08:53 AM   #6
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Some of my favorite KU players were guys who waited their turn and developed in the program to become stars: T Rob, Frank Mason, Devonte Graham, Ochai Agbaji come to mind.

Sadly, I don’t see any of those guys (except maybe Agbaji because he’s a Kansas kid) sticking around in today’s game.

They’d all be recruited over through the portal and probably leave after a year of not getting enough playing time.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the way things are now. Bill Self has always done best with a team that has a lot of upperclassmen that have been in the system multiple years. Sure, he can have a transfer and some younger players but it's the upperclassmen that really make it work.
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:42 PM   #7
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Storr is a frustrating player. He takes alot of bad shots but he's a talented one. We desperately need a player like him to be able to score without being assisted. He also does a good job at drawing fouls. He should see much less usage at Kansas and Self will have him ready to be his best self.
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The difference between UW Storr and KU Storr is that he's not going to be expected to be the leading scorer. He's not going to have to do all of the work.

Also sounds like the #1 PG in the 2025 class will be on campus this weekend too.
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Old 04-19-2024, 06:23 AM   #9
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Rumor is things still look good with Griffen.

I’d also hope we’re all over Kobe Brea if someone else leaves. He shot 50% (on 6 attempts per game!!!) from 3 last year. He also wasn’t a starter at Dayton, so I’d think he’d be fine just being a part of the rotation.

He fell just short of a 50/50/90 shooting split last year. Insane.
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Rumor is things still look good with Griffen.

I’d also hope we’re all over Kobe Brea if someone else leaves. He shot 50% (on 6 attempts per game!!!) from 3 last year. He also wasn’t a starter at Dayton, so I’d think he’d be fine just being a part of the rotation.

He fell just short of a 50/50/90 shooting split last year. Insane.
If we are having to pick between the two, I think I'd rather have Brea to be honest.
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Old 04-19-2024, 09:04 AM   #11
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If we are having to pick between the two, I think I'd rather have Brea to be honest.
I’d guess/hope it isn’t a Brea or Griffen decision, but rather a Brea or Kugel/one of the freshmen decision.

I like Brea because I don’t think he’s going to check out if he isn’t a starter. He seems likely to accept a 6th man role.
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I’d guess/hope it isn’t a Brea or Griffen decision, but rather a Brea or Kugel/one of the freshmen decision.

I like Brea because I don’t think he’s going to check out if he isn’t a starter. He seems likely to accept a 6th man role.
For sure. If we get Brea and Griffen, Kugel is looking elsewhere.
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For sure. If we get Brea and Griffen, Kugel is looking elsewhere.
Adding Mayo, Storr, Griffen, and Brea would be insane.

You could run Mayo at the point for stretches with those 3 on the wings and Dickinson at the 5.

Those spacing issues would be a thing of the past.
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For sure. If we get Brea and Griffen, Kugel is looking elsewhere.
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