***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[bobbymitch]

Originally Posted by wazu

Is there a COVID-19 data dashboard anywhere that actually still works?

Maybe - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

It's from John Hopkins University

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by Bwana

So bleach is the latest thing people are hoarding?

Yes, bleach has been selling out. I get why that one would sell out.

Dont worry, I only bought one.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by bobbymitch

Maybe - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

It's from John Hopkins University

Yeah, and it doesn't work. I've been tracking this one. Yesterday it was down half the day and today it's missing Italy and Iran data.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by penguinz

At least with bleach you can purify drinking water if things were to get really bad. But I also doubt those buying it would know how to use it for this properly.

I'm on a well, so hopefully it will never come to that.

But I use bleach to clean the non carpeted floors about once a month before all this. Now I'll just do it weekly when we clean the house. And wipe down the doors handles and what not.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by O.city

The problem with waiting is by then it’s too late with these things and measures

If they locked down interstate travel, that would mean trucking would come to a halt, think about that.

[booger]

Originally Posted by penguinz

At least those are almost soft. You haven’t lived until you have torn pages out of a magazine to use. Those high gloss pages are the best.

Careful you will get a paper cut and **** your shit all up!

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Bwana

So bleach is the latest thing people are hoarding?

Hopefully the ones hoarding it are using it to keep hydrated.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Irans vast coronavirus burial pits are visible from space

Nice job of getting all the buzz words in there. My mailbox's shadow is visible from space via free outdated imaging. Count the graves in the next row, those trenches aren't vast and would barely handle a good summer weekend in St. Louis and Chicago.

Keep stirring shit. It's obviously helping.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by penguinz

At least with bleach you can purify drinking water if things were to get really bad. But I also doubt those buying it would know how to use it for this properly.

True, but we both know how that would end.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

why try to build a conspiracy? Just for fun?

Why do you care?

BTW, it’s not that hard to follow the strand of a conversation back to it’s origin to see why. My conspiracy idea is in response to a previous theory.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Bwana

If they locked down interstate travel, that would mean trucking would come to a halt, think about that.

People are obviously not thinking, about anything.

[Mecca]

Conspiracy theories are neat, like you know this is a man made virus to kill off the boomers because we don't have a system to support that many old people at once.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Yes, bleach has been selling out. I get why that one would sell out.

Dont worry, I only bought one.

The dollar store was loaded up when I was in there yesterday. My folks are flying back from AZ next week and are paranoid about this thing. (rightfully so at their age) I figured I would grab them some cleaning supplies while they are still obtainable to try to help ease their mind a bit. I have a couple of gallons that I had bought for myself, before this thing blew up.

[BossChief]

I went and bought some stuff last night and the manager of the Hyvee said they had a conference call that afternoon and that they won’t get restocked on TP, wipes and hand sanitizer for at least 3 weeks.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bwana

If they locked down interstate travel, that would mean trucking would come to a halt, think about that.

That's very true.

Gotta think these things thru, I was just commenting on the "overreacting" stuff.