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Old 09-23-2020, 12:19 PM   #2
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The "Cam Erving Effect" ... recently replaced by the "Wylie Effect".

It plays havoc on the tackles.

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Old 09-23-2020, 12:21 PM   #3
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The "Cam Erving Effect" ... recently replaced by the "Wylie Effect".

It plays havoc on the tackles.

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I think it's more of a "Schwartz looks a step slower these days" effect.
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:27 PM   #4
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I think it's more of a "Schwartz looks a step slower these days" effect.
You may very well be right.

The Bolts rush made him look bad.

On the other hand, Mahomes' deep drifty drops aren't helping.

Normally, Schwartz would push the outside guy and let him go wide, then recover to clean up as the rusher overshoots.

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Old 09-23-2020, 10:28 PM   #5
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Just finished the first half of the Chargers game All-22. Pat literally did nothing wrong with how he handled his pocket presence. Every time he dropped back far was the result of a collapsed pocket. The interior line is getting their asses kicked that whole first half. If he doesn't drop nack hes getting killed. Geoff can **** right off.
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Old 09-24-2020, 03:46 AM   #6
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Let Mahomes be Mahomes it's what won us a world championship Lombardi trophy
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Old 09-24-2020, 06:27 AM   #8
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Mahomes can do what he wants. everyone has to adjust to him. that's how it works now that we have the Golden God at QB.


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Old 09-24-2020, 11:34 AM   #9
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Mahomes can do what he wants. everyone has to adjust to him. that's how it works now that we have the Golden God at QB.


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Yep. Need only look at the Super Bowl to dismiss this argument. If Patrick does not drift, WASP does not happen...
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Old 08-21-2021, 10:22 AM   #10
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I can’t find a vid, but the ESPN guys were commenting on him drifting/abandoning the pocket instead of stepping up on one play last night. Anyone remember this? Is it a concern?
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Old 08-21-2021, 10:25 AM   #11
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I can’t find a vid, but the ESPN guys were commenting on him drifting/abandoning the pocket instead of stepping up on one play last night. Anyone remember this? Is it a concern?
Mitchell Schwartz said it was BS.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:10 AM   #12
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The Schwartz bros were clearly the biggest critics of this last season. I’ll wait until dudes like that start making that critique of Pat with this line rather than some doofuses on ESPN who will look at any time Pat moves from the pocket as confirmation of that talking point from last season.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:14 AM   #13
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Yeah on the INT it looked like Mahomes had a clean pocket to step up into, but instead he bailed and ran around.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:22 AM   #14
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Yeah on the INT it looked like Mahomes had a clean pocket to step up into, but instead he bailed and ran around.
It sure looked like he could have stepped up.

However, the tv feed view can be misleading. You really can't tell what he was dealing with unless you have his eye line.

We need a Mahomes 3D Helm Cam View in order to make this determination.

There's also the issue of Hardman's route running last night. Taking Tyreek's spot on short notice wasn't easy for Hardman (that was obvious).

Maybe Mahomes' trust in Hardman had significantly devolved by that point in the game.

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Old 08-21-2021, 12:17 PM   #15
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Yeah on the INT it looked like Mahomes had a clean pocket to step up into, but instead he bailed and ran around.
looked like he had a clear touchdown to Hardman. But, he ran out.

He knows he needs to work on this. Running for your life the majority of your time in the NFL doesn’t help. Probably see him stay more often as the trust of the OL improves.
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