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Old 10-25-2015, 09:55 PM   #2
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
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Did you get sucked into the Hootie abyss?
I invested in the hilarity and Nzonee/floppy plus putting in my own input. Hoots wanted a one man show, ran off guys with good ideas, and it became a dumpster fire.Had a damn good week of lineups this week the tournies I was in.
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:58 PM   #3
Eleazar Eleazar is offline
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I invested in the hilarity and Nzonee/floppy plus putting in my own input. Had a damn good week of lineups this week the tournies I was in.
It's interesting to we outsiders that everyone talks about DFS here and no one, ever, ever loses money. (Except Hootie apparently)

And yet these sites still buy up every commercial on TV.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:04 PM   #4
Nzoner Nzoner is offline
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It's interesting to we outsiders that everyone talks about DFS here and no one, ever, ever loses money. (Except Hootie apparently)

And yet these sites still buy up every commercial on TV.
The DFS sites are really no different than a Vegas sportsbook,they get theirs first and then pay the winners from the losers.

Oh and I'll be the first to admit I've lost my fair share of tourneys,I've just been one of the fortunate ones to win more than I ever deposited.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:11 PM   #5
alnorth alnorth is offline
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This is just mind-boggling. If I was in a position where I had control over how a $5,000 pool was wagered, 98% of which was other people's money, I'd be terrified of doing anything the group didn't want. I'd make damned sure everyone agreed with the plan before doing anything, and if there was any question or disagreement, I'd do nothing till it was sorted out. Its almost like having a fiduciary duty.

If I felt that I had the secret sauce for winning, and the group wasn't listening to my brilliant idea, **** it, I'd go to the other major DFS site and put my own lineups there.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:31 PM   #6
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
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This is just mind-boggling. If I was in a position where I had control over how a $5,000 pool was wagered, 98% of which was other people's money, I'd be terrified of doing anything the group didn't want. I'd make damned sure everyone agreed with the plan before doing anything, and if there was any question or disagreement, I'd do nothing till it was sorted out. Its almost like having a fiduciary duty.
I don't know shit about FF, I have nothing to do with lineups.

However, I control the money, the Fan Duel account and the paypal account, no one else. I'm the dude responsible for that fiduciary duty you speak of. Because people have trusted me with their real names, money and if we actually make some serious money, I will not disappear. I've locked out everyone out of the Fan Duel account twice and basically fired Hootie from making lineups without asking anyone or sought approval.

Not had a single complaint yet. So I'm assuming I still have their trust.
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:15 PM   #7
alnorth alnorth is offline
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It's interesting to we outsiders that everyone talks about DFS here and no one, ever, ever loses money. (Except Hootie apparently)

And yet these sites still buy up every commercial on TV.
The group of players as a whole always lose money. They have to, its set up that way, just like a poker room in a casino, the house always takes their rake from the pot, and its up to you to be smarter and more skilled than the other chumps at the table. It is a better business model than a sportsbook, it is literally impossible for the DFS web site to lose, they just take a little piece from each contest and leave most of the pot for the players to fight over.

That said, this idea of taking a very large group of smart people and collectively analyze that week's contest is a good one. Hypothetically, 50+ brains should have a better chance of winning than the lone wolfs who try to figure it out on their own. All you need are rules, solid leadership, and the people in control of the lineups need to be ethical and trustworthy. (woops)
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