***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Heh...that's actually pretty good.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

https://www.rageon.com/a/products?fi...ternalId=iNGbA

I saw an ad for a place where you could submit a photo of your own face, and they'd print it on a mask for you. Creepy as hell, but kind of hilarious.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't think that SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted via urine.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I saw an ad for a place where you could submit a photo of your own face, and they'd print it on a mask for you. Creepy as hell, but kind of hilarious.

That link has thousands of designs.

There was a pretty funny Spaceballs The Facemask but I got tired of looking.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't think that SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted via urine.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Masks just need to become fashion accessory like a ball cap. I'm more than happy to wear my Chiefs masks around here, but I get why people wouldn't really like wearing the ones that are just black or that were made with flowery scraps of fabric that someone had lying around the house.

They're talking about COVID transmitted by farts, so everyone look forward to mandatory buttplug regulations, . . . and spot checks.

[Kiimo]

Breaking News: The White House is considering winding down the coronavirus task force as the crisis rages on. It’s not clear if it will be replaced. https://t.co/gpFtI2TsYT pic.twitter.com/H7b9XeLDut

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 5, 2020

sooooo we're still not allowed to get political, right?


Well good thing people will stop dying on May 15th then

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I saw an ad for a place where you could submit a photo of your own face, and they'd print it on a mask for you. Creepy as hell, but kind of hilarious.

The joe exotic bitch face is gonna be a big seller.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

They're talking about COVID transmitted by farts, so everyone look forward to mandatory buttplug regulations, . . . and spot checks.

They are looking at a stool test to detect COVID before you become contagious.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Breaking News: The White House is considering winding down the coronavirus task force as the crisis rages on. It’s not clear if it will be replaced. https://t.co/gpFtI2TsYT pic.twitter.com/H7b9XeLDut

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 5, 2020

sooooo we're still not allowed to get political, right?


Well good thing people will stop dying on May 15th then

They've largely left everything up to the states anyway, so I'm not sure it'll matter much.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

They're talking about COVID transmitted by farts, so everyone look forward to mandatory buttplug regulations, . . . and spot checks.

I will just put the mask on my ass.

[SAUTO]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...sumptions/amp/



This article says there would be a difference in infected and deaths with and without mitigation.

It's common sense

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You are exactly right. So as has been stated the entire time, the mitigation was to slow the run on the hospitals not necessarily minimize the number of people who got the infection.

If we didn't mitigate we would have had the same number of infections but probably more deaths due to lack of resources in the hospitals.

Here is what Dr Fauci has repeatedly said about flattening the curve

“If you look at the curves of outbreaks, you know, they go up big peaks, and then they come down. What we need to do is flatten that down,” he has said publicly. “That would have less people infected. That would, ultimately, have less deaths.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Here is what Dr Fauci has repeatedly said about flattening the curve

It's common sense


I wish someone could find the models that show 1 to 2 million deaths and show the number of infected vs the 80k model's number

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...sumptions/amp/



This article says there would be a difference in infected and deaths with and without mitigation.

It's common sense

But those 'differences' are on two premises.

One realized, the avoidance of overburdening hospital facilities
One speculative, that 'something' will happen to mitigate the virus, vaccine, improved protocols, seasonal changes in transmissability, etc.

The gains we got from flattening are realized gains. And there's little to suggest that the speculative amelioration has made any progress.

You want to argue that we just need to hold on for a while longer, that's fine. But until we ACTUALLY OBSERVE ameliorative developments, whether it's a vaccine or a mutation, or whatever, we're not reducing anything further. Only prolonging. So be honest that 'a while longer' could indeed be 'a while longer'