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Old 09-21-2018, 10:03 AM   #2
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This team has just missed on to many defensive picks and has highly paid guys not playing or underproducing and somehow it's the coordinators fault.

The Chiefs defensive talent level is not great, it's a lot of complimentary pieces without the cornerstones. There is no elite pass rusher anymore, there is no #1 CB so without those types of pieces it's hard to be a great D.
Pretty much. If Berry or Houston were in the game playing like they had in the past.....this defense would be at least average. If you throw Peters back in this defense.....no one would be complaining when we're smoking teams 42-21.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:07 AM   #3
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Pretty much. If Berry or Houston were in the game playing like they had in the past.....this defense would be at least average. If you throw Peters back in this defense.....no one would be complaining when we're smoking teams 42-21.
Basically you factor about 4 things together...Houston turning into a solid player when he was signed to be elite, Eric Berry being a ghost that never plays with the trading away of the only really great defensive draft pick this team ever had really stacked the deck in a bad way...also Dee Fords holding pattern on development and we have a defense that probably should have been top 15 looking like ass...
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:26 AM   #4
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There is a reason Tampa Bay and Kansas City are the top two scoring teams so far (two best offenses) and also the two worst defence in terms of yards and points allowed.

Scoring a lot offensively has the effect of making the other team one-dimensional, which is passing the ball a lot and agressively, which leads to more points for that opposing team.

I still think the Chiefs are fielding an average D but if they keep scoring close to 40 points, the defense will allow points too, especially against top QBs and top offences.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:37 AM   #5
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There is a reason Tampa Bay and Kansas City are the top two scoring teams so far (two best offenses) and also the two worst defence in terms of yards and points allowed.

Scoring a lot offensively has the effect of making the other team one-dimensional, which is passing the ball a lot and agressively, which leads to more points for that opposing team.

I still think the Chiefs are fielding an average D but if they keep scoring close to 40 points, the defense will allow points too, especially against top QBs and top offences.
It's not just that they've scored a lot, but that they've jumped out to big leads immediately. So you had two really good passing offenses in catch-up mode for nearly the entire game.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a "good" defense, but I think the people saying it's historically bad are way off.

They seem to be far better at stopping the run. The secondary needs work but isn't as brutal as it has seemed. Berry will help.
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:13 PM   #6
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There is a reason Tampa Bay and Kansas City are the top two scoring teams so far (two best offenses) and also the two worst defence in terms of yards and points allowed.

Scoring a lot offensively has the effect of making the other team one-dimensional, which is passing the ball a lot and agressively, which leads to more points for that opposing team.

I still think the Chiefs are fielding an average D but if they keep scoring close to 40 points, the defense will allow points too, especially against top QBs and top offences.
Well, plus KC's offense has jumped ALL OVER teams early.

Defense, too, honestly. Forcing early 3 and outs and allowing KC to build that big lead with their explosive offense. Boy they're mushy with a 14 point lead though.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:02 AM   #7
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Jones was listed as a full participant on Thursday. Berry and Watts did not practice again.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:00 AM   #8
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Well, final practice of the week with no Berry. I'm guessing week 5 is the earliest possible return.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:27 AM   #9
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I wonder if they aren't going to be sending him for an MRI soon? Has anything been mentioned about that locally?
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:33 AM   #10
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I wonder if they aren't going to be sending him for an MRI soon? Has anything been mentioned about that locally?
It is his achilles. MRI won't say much more than they already know.

There is little blood flow to the achilles so it does not heal on its own very quickly if at all. I would assume they have tried PRP and sonic therapy to try and get it to heal on its own.

Unfortunately it most likely is an injury he is just going to have to realize he has to fight through and just have it repaired either preemptively or when it tears/ruptures.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:02 PM   #11
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It is his achilles. MRI won't say much more than they already know.

There is little blood flow to the achilles so it does not heal on its own very quickly if at all. I would assume they have tried PRP and sonic therapy to try and get it to heal on its own.

Unfortunately it most likely is an injury he is just going to have to realize he has to fight through and just have it repaired either preemptively or when it tears/ruptures.
It isn't normal for achilles tendonitis to persist for more than 6 weeks, so one would think they'd do the MR to rule it out.

I haven't been tracking this on a daily basis like some have, if it's been 6 weeks now and he's not even able to run in practice that's starting to be suspicious of something else, is it not?

For someone who's already had injuries to the other achilles, you wonder if things like running form that can cause chronic pain over time are affecting both feet.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:05 PM   #12
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It isn't normal for achilles tendonitis to persist for more than 6 weeks, so one would think they'd do the MR to rule it out.

I haven't been tracking this on a daily basis like some have, if it's been 6 weeks now and he's not even able to run in practice that's starting to be suspicious of something else, is it not?

For someone who's already had injuries to the other achilles, you wonder if things like running form that can cause chronic pain over time are affecting both feet.
Where the **** did you come up with this?
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:08 PM   #13
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Where the **** did you come up with this?
With no improvement, even given rest and proper care?
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:03 PM   #14
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It isn't normal for achilles tendonitis to persist for more than 6 weeks, so one would think they'd do the MR to rule it out.
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You have no clue about this. Tendinitis can last a very long time.

Also a good chance it isn’t tendinitis and is tendonosis. Hopefully for him it is tendinitis. I have tendonosis in both Achilles and have already had one reconstructed. Not the most pleasant thing to deal with.
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