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Old 09-22-2020, 06:30 PM  
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Some chatter today about Mahomes drifting too far from the pocket
Thoughts?
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Old 09-23-2020, 06:09 PM   #61
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Phantom? He got squashed a few times on some serious hits because our line is not very good.
Need to invest in some athletic fatties.
Does shields and roaf have kids playing in the nfl yet?
I remember that time last year he tried to stay in the pocket and got his already hurt ankle stepped on.
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Old 09-23-2020, 06:23 PM   #62
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Phantom? He got squashed a few times on some serious hits because our line is not very good.
He did take some hits, but there were times when he bailed out of the pocket too early as well. He noted it himself last season and said he needed to work on it. Or rather, I think he said he would work on it. it also bears repeating that when he did settle down things got easier for him and he was more efficient after that. One of the more obvious examples was the week 10 game last year when he didn't run around (per mother's order?), and he threw for 446? He stayed in and manipulated the pocket, didn't drift back 15 yards and was extremely efficient.

I think it really comes down to the fact that it's just very early in the season still, and even Pat isn't quite in mid-season form. He knows it, and he'll square that shit up over the next week or so.
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Old 09-23-2020, 10:28 PM   #63
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Just finished the first half of the Chargers game All-22. Pat literally did nothing wrong with how he handled his pocket presence. Every time he dropped back far was the result of a collapsed pocket. The interior line is getting their asses kicked that whole first half. If he doesn't drop nack hes getting killed. Geoff can **** right off.
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Old 09-24-2020, 03:46 AM   #64
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Let Mahomes be Mahomes it's what won us a world championship Lombardi trophy
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Old 09-24-2020, 06:27 AM   #65
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Mahomes can do what he wants. everyone has to adjust to him. that's how it works now that we have the Golden God at QB.


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Old 09-24-2020, 11:34 AM   #66
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Mahomes can do what he wants. everyone has to adjust to him. that's how it works now that we have the Golden God at QB.


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Yep. Need only look at the Super Bowl to dismiss this argument. If Patrick does not drift, WASP does not happen...
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I can’t find a vid, but the ESPN guys were commenting on him drifting/abandoning the pocket instead of stepping up on one play last night. Anyone remember this? Is it a concern?
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Old 08-21-2021, 10:25 AM   #68
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I can’t find a vid, but the ESPN guys were commenting on him drifting/abandoning the pocket instead of stepping up on one play last night. Anyone remember this? Is it a concern?
Mitchell Schwartz said it was BS.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:10 AM   #69
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The Schwartz bros were clearly the biggest critics of this last season. I’ll wait until dudes like that start making that critique of Pat with this line rather than some doofuses on ESPN who will look at any time Pat moves from the pocket as confirmation of that talking point from last season.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:14 AM   #70
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Yeah on the INT it looked like Mahomes had a clean pocket to step up into, but instead he bailed and ran around.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:15 AM   #71
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It's one of the only holes in his game.

Increased pocket presence and a little more touch on some throws and he'll have none.
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Yeah and TBF with our interior line last year, if he stepped up between the tackles he was just going to get creamed. The only place he was safe was out running wild.

He's going to have to adjust to a clean pocket.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:22 AM   #73
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Yeah on the INT it looked like Mahomes had a clean pocket to step up into, but instead he bailed and ran around.
It sure looked like he could have stepped up.

However, the tv feed view can be misleading. You really can't tell what he was dealing with unless you have his eye line.

We need a Mahomes 3D Helm Cam View in order to make this determination.

There's also the issue of Hardman's route running last night. Taking Tyreek's spot on short notice wasn't easy for Hardman (that was obvious).

Maybe Mahomes' trust in Hardman had significantly devolved by that point in the game.

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Yeah and TBF with our interior line last year, if he stepped up between the tackles he was just going to get creamed. The only place he was safe was out running wild.

He's going to have to adjust to a clean pocket.
What a weird problem to have
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Yeah, it's a concern just as much as it's a concern that teams now have the blueprint to shutting down our offense.

(For those of you who read this wrong, that means it's not a concern at all)
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