***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by eDave

Looks like Arizona has survived

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Looks like Arizona has survived

all I see on his post is a white space...I take it that it's good news about AZ?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

all I see on his post is a white space...I take it that it's good news about AZ?

Yes. Their numbers are trending down across the board.

[TLO]

Some interesting Missouri numbers.

Positivity rates from August 9th-15th by region

Central 10.3%
KC Region 5.4%
Northeast Region 8.6%
Northwest Region 6.1%
St Louis Region 8.8%
Southeast Region 11.9%
Southwest Region 9.2%

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yes. Their numbers are trending down across the board.

Well that’s special...seriously good to hear

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Maybe it was the people at the CDC, penz?

Schools should open, CDC says
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/...open-cdc-says/

According to the AAP, they strongly suggest that policy considerations should start with the goal of having students physically present. They go on to say that unfortunately, due to SARS CoV 2, this cannot occur safely in many jurisdictions.

They have a really nice statement at the AAP website.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...on-in-schools/

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TLO

Some interesting Missouri numbers.

Positivity rates from August 9th-15th by region

Central 10.3%
KC Region 5.4%
Northeast Region 8.6%
Northwest Region 6.1%
St Louis Region 8.8%
Southeast Region 11.9%
Southwest Region 9.2%

This has to be a bit behind the curve.

They just this week tested 600+ kids coming back to school at Missouri Southern University and had 7 positives. 1.1%.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

all I see on his post is a white space...I take it that it's good news about AZ?

It's pretty much 4 curves that look like a normal distribution centered around early july

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by loochy

It's pretty much 4 curves that look like a normal distribution centered around early july

Things are definitely improving in AZ. Keep in mind that the state is not counting positive or negative results that are received by fax due to the data collection burden. I think I read that that 25 percent of results are faxed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azc...amp/5587283002

This probably doesn't effect positivity rates

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Some interesting Missouri numbers.

Positivity rates from August 9th-15th by region

Central 10.3%
KC Region 5.4%
Northeast Region 8.6%
Northwest Region 6.1%
St Louis Region 8.8%
Southeast Region 11.9%
Southwest Region 9.2%

I’d like to see recent serology #s

Seems once they hit 20 this thing falls off a cliff. If you have 2 mild infections that never seroconvert but have a T cell response and action, that puts you about 60% immune

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Exactly...highly impractical.....for every 1 child that does well with it how many don't?

And you don't know what he isn't learning by not being around children his age as well. But I get what you are saying.

Agree 100%, I definitely already see the sociological drawbacks of isolation regarding my kiddos, and the wife and I are trying to responsibly socialize both our children without risking their well being or their cousins/friends.

There have been times during the pandemic when the wife and I have both agreed full on in person school was a better option for both of our children, but I don't know that its a better option for the teachers, administrators, or multi-generational living households. That's why this is such a complicated topic of discussion. No one size fits all. Our school district has given us the option to go all in online or in person, we opted for the latter even with the success of online learning.

[TLO]

Someone in my office just got sent for testing. Son of a bitch.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TLO

Someone in my office just got sent for testing. Son of a bitch.

Wouldn't you rather just get it and get it over with at this point dude?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Wouldn't you rather just get it and get it over with at this point dude?

Sure, because everyone knows whether they’ll be a mild or severe case.......

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Sure, because everyone knows whether they’ll be a mild or severe case.......

If you are under 60, yea you know the odds are next to zero. Im not the least bit afraid to get it and I will be 50 in less than a year.