***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

BREAKING: New York City reports 349 coronavirus deaths since morning update https://t.co/ACTvkkQ0g2

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) April 4, 2020

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Right but you have that little thing called what prop 13 ?

Prop 13 basically says the county can't raise property taxes equivalent to their value today.

So for example, someone who purchased their home in 1993 for $150,000 pays property taxes based on that purchase price plus modest and incremental increases in assessed value each year. In this case, the homeowner paid approximately $1,800 per year in property tax and 27 years later, are likely paying somewhere around $3,000 a year or less today.

Without Prop 13, the property tax on such homes would be closer to $11k per year on the low end and more than $20k on the high end, something those people most likely cannot afford.

The result would be catastrophic, with tens of thousands, if not millions, unable to afford their property tax and in the process, either lose or be forced to sell their homes, something no one wants to see happen.

[O.city]

Breaking: 70% of blood donors in Castiglione d'Adda, the epicentre of the outbreak, tested positive (they had the antibodies) and none had developed any symptoms before! Lombardy is probably approaching herd immunity https://t.co/35B3lRyEri

— Davide Piffer (@DavidePiffer) April 3, 2020

So thats good.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Saphojunkie's friend's dad just died of covid in NYC. That will really hit yeah if it happens to you

100K dead, a lot more will fight for their life but survive. We will all probably know someone before this is all over.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Prop 13 basically says the county can't raise property taxes equivalent to their value today.

So for example, someone who purchased their home in 1993 for $150,000 pays property taxes based on that purchase price plus modest and incremental increases in assessed value each year. In this case, the homeowner paid approximately $1,800 per year in property tax and 27 years later, are likely paying somewhere around $3,000 a year or less today.

Without Prop 13, the property tax on such homes would be closer to $11k per year on the low end and more than $20k on the high end, something those people most likely cannot afford.

The result would be catastrophic, with tens of thousands, if not millions, unable to afford their property tax and in the process, either lose or be forced to sell their homes, something no one wants to see happen.

I’m paying $5200 for flood, $3700 for regular insurance and $4700 for property taxes. So sounds like we have it worse here, at least us on the water. But, we pay no state taxes.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

So thats good.

Yeah, except that guy has 588 followers and a Word Press site.

That alone makes it easy to dismiss, at least for me.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I told you these people existed.

Good for you, man. I'd **** it up

You’d need 20% down to have choice.

[TLO]

Been waiting for this thing to update all day

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


Still no update..

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Donger

Meh. It's not like property taxes and insurance are a huge amount. I'd rather just let it happen, and I've never late paid a bill in my life.

I bought a new construction built on a vacant lot. This years property tax is on the vacant lot yet the lender assessed 2% of the home’s purchase price for escrow. That’s a substantial swing, so yeah, I’d rather manage my own finances.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

100K dead, a lot more will fight for their life but survive. We will all probably know someone before this is all over.

My friend lost his Grandmother, Aunt and Uncle to the CoronaVirus.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Been waiting for this thing to update all day

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


Still no update..

Pick a better site. like worldometers or covidly.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

My friend lost his Grandmother, Aunt and Uncle to the CoronaVirus.

Shit man that sucks.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by O.city

Breaking: 70% of blood donors in Castiglione d'Adda, the epicentre of the outbreak, tested positive (they had the antibodies) and none had developed any symptoms before! Lombardy is probably approaching herd immunity https://t.co/35B3lRyEri

— Davide Piffer (@DavidePiffer) April 3, 2020

So thats good.

Really good. Probably the most optimistic news so far.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Really good. Probably the most optimistic news so far.

So if I went to donate blood, I'd know if I had the coronavirus?

[BigRedChief]

This is how the richest people in the world should be spending their money these days.

Bill Gates is setting up factories to manufacture 7 leading vaccine candidates before we know which is best & safest; we can test the vaccines in parallel, and then throw away all but the factory for the best vaccine. May save many months.

Just extraordinary. pic.twitter.com/JGjkJ6FKNa

— michael_nielsen (@michael_nielsen) April 4, 2020