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Old 04-27-2024, 01:09 PM  
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:23 PM   #61
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One thing that wrecks Mahomes and this offense is interior pressure. The worst games this offense has had is the games that the D gets pressure up the middle.
I don't know that it was pretty, but I seem to remember games where the tackles held up fine, the interior collapsed, and Mahomes made a living going backwards and throwing off his back foot.

Not that the iOL doesn't matter, and if BV can reload with later picks great.

But it's legitimate to ask how much it's worth to sign second contracts for.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:24 PM   #62
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BWillie doesn't like how expensive Creed is going to become, and doesn't believe we should pay a center big money at all because we don't heavily focus on the running game.

Take from that what you will.
There could be an argument that Andy values guards higher, because he’s let walk two of the better centers in the league. And has signed guys off the scrap heap to start. But even if they were the case then I would guarantee they try to lock up Trey long term.

I would still imagine they value Creed over Trey
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:26 PM   #63
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Sorry to keep bringing up Thuney, but.... can't his contract be split across Creed and Trey? Or at least go a long way for retaining both?
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:29 PM   #64
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You're literally a ****ing idiot. Interior pressure is the one thing that kills Mahomes. We need a strong interior more than we need elite Ts.
Disagree. Mahomes worst games have been when his tackles struggled and his best games came when we had Fisher and Schwartz. I’m not saying that interior isn’t important- it clearly is but there’s a reason tackles are prioritized over guards and centers.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:29 PM   #65
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Sorry to keep bringing up Thuney, but.... can't his contract be split across Creed and Trey? Or at least go a long way for retaining both?
Yeah. He’s got 1 more year before his dead cap is down to about $10 mil. Jawaan has 2 more before his dead cap is down to around $5 mil.

It’s definitely possible.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:31 PM   #66
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Why would you "want" to let Creed walk? If we have to let him go because of contract demands that's one thing but I certainly would like to keep him if we can.
There is no reason a pass first Andy Reid offense should ever want to pay market value for a free agent elite to above avg center. It is a bad use of resources. If we played like the Eagles it not only would be a great use of resources but it would become a necessity.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:33 PM   #67
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You're literally a ****ing idiot. Interior pressure is the one thing that kills Mahomes. We need a strong interior more than we need elite Ts.
We do not. We need good tackles and a good pass blocking guard. When you are a heavy pass first offense this is how you operate. You do not pay centers under any circumstance. The org knows this. Theyve let the last two good centers walk and they are going to do it again.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:34 PM   #68
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Disagree. Mahomes worst games have been when his tackles struggled and his best games came when we had Fisher and Schwartz. I’m not saying that interior isn’t important- it clearly is but there’s a reason tackles are prioritized over guards and centers.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:44 PM   #69
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Andy would disagree with you.

We are more likely to resign both than to let both walk… but I’d guess Trey walks

As much as Mahomes likes to get out of the pocket, I would rather have an elite interior over elite tackles.
Hopefully Creed figures out how to not dirt the ball to Mahomes every 10th attempt.
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Old 04-27-2024, 03:02 PM   #71
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I’d extend Creed now. And Trey is the guy who walks after next year, or you tag him for a season. Who knows. But you are stupid if you think we are going to walk away from Thuney, Creed, and Smith. I think you keep the center in place. See how Trey does.
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Move Creed to G?
They are pissed about Creed rolling the ball back to Mahomes?
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I’d extend Creed now. And Trey is the guy who walks after next year, or you tag him for a season. Who knows. But you are stupid if you think we are going to walk away from Thuney, Creed, and Smith. I think you keep the center in place. See how Trey does.
Im signing the guard. I'd probably try to see if Creed can play guard this year but I doubt he would want to being that centers usually make more money.
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