Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-23-2024, 02:03 PM   #2
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
(Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Diving
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
Are you saying wait until age 70 to start taking Social Security?

Because waiting until age 70 isn't always the best course for everyone.

If you think you will live to age 90...waiting is right. But if your lifetime left isn't that long that extra 3 year wait may not be right for you.
It very-much is a balance of a number of factors for each individual. Even if you're planning to live to 90 or 95, if your passion is one where 70 or 72 is about as long as you can do it, you might as well add it to your slush fund while you're not sitting around eating pudding. I'm not even 60 yet but I'm very-much thinking about taking what I can get at 62 and letting it fund a trip each month for as long as I can keep doing my thing. After that I'll be one of those people riding a golf cart and waiting to die one organ at a time, prolly starting with the liver.
Posts: 115,652
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 07:29 PM   #3
BryanBusby BryanBusby is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
Are you saying wait until age 70 to start taking Social Security?

Because waiting until age 70 isn't always the best course for everyone.

If you think you will live to age 90...waiting is right. But if your lifetime left isn't that long that extra 3 year wait may not be right for you.
My financial advisor and I talked about this. General gist of it (for men) is to cash out by 67.

Hardly makes sense to wait till 70.
Posts: 22,221
BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 04:27 PM   #4
jerryaldini jerryaldini is online now
MVP
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Quote:
Originally Posted by 493rd View Post
Between 66 and 67 for anyone alive. If you can wait on SS do it; it’s an 8% increase year-over-year until 70.
Remember to factor in the returns you're getting on the SSI. It's reducing how much you would otherwise draw down existing assets that can remain invested. As the investment return assumption increases during those early years it makes waiting less advantageous. Obviously earlier death does the same. It's designed to have a break even death age that roughly matches average life expectancy, early to mid 80s . Bottom line is there are unknowns that make it unclear.

The good news is when I've done the math it doesn't make that much difference except in the case of very long life, say past 95 where waiting is clearly better. Obviously if you need the cash now to spend you take it. I tend to do life using the Buddha's middle path and will probably start it at 65 and not fret over it!
Posts: 7,364
jerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellijerryaldini 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 04:53 PM   #5
493rd 493rd is offline
GDT Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: *
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerryaldini View Post
Remember to factor in the returns you're getting on the SSI. It's reducing how much you would otherwise draw down existing assets that can remain invested. As the investment return assumption increases during those early years it makes waiting less advantageous. Obviously earlier death does the same. It's designed to have a break even death age that roughly matches average life expectancy, early to mid 80s . Bottom line is there are unknowns that make it unclear.

The good news is when I've done the math it doesn't make that much difference except in the case of very long life, say past 95 where waiting is clearly better. Obviously if you need the cash now to spend you take it. I tend to do life using the Buddha's middle path and will probably start it at 65 and not fret over it!
I’m gonna guess you do business with either Ed Jones or TD Ameritrade (now SCHW). Am I right?
Posts: 8,209
493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 06:49 PM   #6
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerryaldini View Post
Remember to factor in the returns you're getting on the SSI. It's reducing how much you would otherwise draw down existing assets that can remain invested. As the investment return assumption increases during those early years it makes waiting less advantageous. Obviously earlier death does the same. It's designed to have a break even death age that roughly matches average life expectancy, early to mid 80s . Bottom line is there are unknowns that make it unclear.

The good news is when I've done the math it doesn't make that much difference except in the case of very long life, say past 95 where waiting is clearly better. Obviously if you need the cash now to spend you take it. I tend to do life using the Buddha's middle path and will probably start it at 65 and not fret over it!
Yeah....the difference in what you get at FRA vs waiting till age 70 is not so much that in most cases.
Posts: 11,332
Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.Mosbonian threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 01:10 PM   #7
493rd 493rd is offline
GDT Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: *
15 years left for me God-willing. Seems like forever at this point, but that would put me at 60 which I think is good. Roughly 7 years from SS and 5 from Medicare. Enjoy your retirement and watching our Chiefs win another 3 SBs during!
Posts: 8,209
493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 02:14 PM   #8
493rd 493rd is offline
GDT Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: *
If I were you I’d go sit down with a CFP professional to build out a financial plan for yourself and wife. I hear Schwab does these at no cost so maybe start there. Then you’ll know exactly how all your pieces come together and when it makes the most sense to take SSI. You’ll also know where your spending threshold lies. As a financial advisor with 18 years experience and a CFP designation that’s what I’d suggest!
Posts: 8,209
493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 02:40 PM   #9
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
(Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Diving
Quote:
Originally Posted by 493rd View Post
If I were you I’d go sit down with a CFP professional to build out a financial plan for yourself and wife. I hear Schwab does these at no cost so maybe start there. Then you’ll know exactly how all your pieces come together and when it makes the most sense to take SSI. You’ll also know where your spending threshold lies. As a financial advisor with 18 years experience and a CFP designation that’s what I’d suggest!
Been there, done that (with multiple CFPs), we're doing just fine with or without SSI, that's why I refer to it as beer money (or "A trip a month" money). As it should be.
Posts: 115,652
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 03:17 PM   #10
493rd 493rd is offline
GDT Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: *
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz View Post
Been there, done that (with multiple CFPs), we're doing just fine with or without SSI, that's why I refer to it as beer money (or "A trip a month" money). As it should be.
Well that’s great…for you. Sounds like you’re in a good place which is fantastic. Not everyone is so confident with their retirement. That’s why I'm employed
Posts: 8,209
493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 04:19 PM   #11
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
(Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Diving
Quote:
Originally Posted by 493rd View Post
Well that’s great…for you. Sounds like you’re in a good place which is fantastic. Not everyone is so confident with their retirement. That’s why I'm employed
Without a doubt we did very OK, we are blessed.
Posts: 115,652
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 02:50 PM
HemiEd
This message has been deleted by HemiEd.
Old 03-23-2024, 04:56 PM   #13
crazycoffey crazycoffey is offline
..........
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
I retired in may, played a lot more golf this last summer and more trips to the lake of the ozarks. Got through the VA process and getting some things done for me that I’d put off for many many years. Since I’m not good enough to make the senior golf tour, I do have a fed job lined up to be my retirement gig, and use my military time towards a second pension in about 8 years.

Then the wife and I are going to upgrade our boat and do the great loop for a whole year. Take the river to the gulf, around the panhandle, up the eastern coast l then into the Great Lakes and back to the river and down to St. Louis. If you do it right l, you spend winter in Florida and summer in the Great Lakes.

After that probably change to an RV as I get too old to boat. See the world, travel, visit old friends and family.

Whatever you do, have fun. You have earned it!
Posts: 28,332
crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.crazycoffey is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 6 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 05:39 PM   #14
Hog's Gone Fishin Hog's Gone Fishin is offline
Fish are scared of me
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
I retired at 54 in 2017 and bought a really nice bass boat and a lake house at Lake Texoma. My wife became really ill on May of 2018 and I've since been having to take care of her, sold my lake house this year. She'll never be to a point where I can get away so , I just enjoy watching Chiefs Superbowl victories.
Posts: 40,383
Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hog's Gone Fishin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 6 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2024, 05:50 PM   #15
493rd 493rd is offline
GDT Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: *
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin View Post
I retired at 54 in 2017 and bought a really nice bass boat and a lake house at Lake Texoma. My wife became really ill on May of 2018 and I've since been having to take care of her, sold my lake house this year. She'll never be to a point where I can get away so , I just enjoy watching Chiefs Superbowl victories.
Sorry to hear about your wife, man. Enjoy the Chiefs greatness!
Posts: 8,209
493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.493rd is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.