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Old 04-13-2018, 08:21 PM  
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Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!


We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:52 PM   #91
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Green is obviously making the HOF. Not even sure how that is a controversial thing to say anymore.

And yeah, it's true he couldn't be option #1 or #2 offensively on a good team. But why does that matter at all or have any bearing on this topic?
So if he's in, Andre has to make it too right?
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:53 PM   #92
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Is Andre Iguodala a hall of famer? He has a better overall body of work than Draymond, he has led a team before which is something most people think Draymond can do and he has the championships and a finals mvp award. If Draymond is going to the hall of fame, why shouldn't Iggy?
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The multiple all-star appearances, DPOY awards, and Olympic gold medals might help.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:56 PM   #93
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So if he's in, Andre has to make it too right?
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He'll likely miss out, but you're right, the Warriors do have 4 HOFers and one other one that you could at least make the argument for. It's amazing that LeBron even took a game off them last year.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:05 PM   #94
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The multiple all-star appearances, DPOY awards, and Olympic gold medals might help.
Andre has been an all star, he's made the all defense team. He's led his own team. He's been a finals MVP. He has multiple rings. He has an Olympic medal.

Even if their accolades aren't exactly the same, they still have a lot of similarities so if one goes in, the other has to go in. The big difference is that at one point in Iggy's career, he was the first option on a team, Draymond will never be that. Imagine prime Iggy on the Warriors and he's far better than current Draymond. Imagine Draymond on the sixers teams Iggy had and he's a forgotten player in the NBA history books.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:07 PM   #95
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Well one thing we do know is that Miami had 4 sure fire HOFers on their title teams.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:08 PM   #96
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He'll likely miss out, but you're right, the Warriors do have 4 HOFers and one other one that you could at least make the argument for. It's amazing that LeBron even took a game off them last year.
Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving are hall of famers. So that's 3 vs 4. And LeBron being as great as it is, the gaps even closer. So it's a shame he could only take 1 game off them if you want to play that game.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:24 PM   #97
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Well one thing we do know is that Miami had 4 sure fire HOFers on their title teams.
And they lost to what might be the worst team to ever win an NBA title in the Mavs.

Lebron averaged a whopping 17 ppg in that series.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:29 PM   #98
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Andre has been an all star, he's made the all defense team. He's led his own team. He's been a finals MVP. He has multiple rings. He has an Olympic medal.

Even if their accolades aren't exactly the same, they still have a lot of similarities so if one goes in, the other has to go in. The big difference is that at one point in Iggy's career, he was the first option on a team, Draymond will never be that. Imagine prime Iggy on the Warriors and he's far better than current Draymond. Imagine Draymond on the sixers teams Iggy had and he's a forgotten player in the NBA history books.
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Draymond Green:
2× NBA champion (2015, 2017)
3× NBA All-Star (2016–2018)
All-NBA Second Team (2016)
All-NBA Third Team (2017)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2017)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2015–2017)
NBA steals leader (2017)
NABC National Player of the Year (2012)
Consensus first-team All-American (2012)
Big Ten Player of the Year (2012)
First-team All-Big Ten (2012)
2× Third-team All-Big Ten (2010, 2011)
Big Ten All-Defensive Team (2012)
Big Ten Sixth Man of the Year (2010)
Big Ten Tournament MVP (2012)
Fourth-team Parade All-American (2008)

Andre Iguodala:

2× NBA champion (2015, 2017)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
First-team All-Pac-10 (2004)

Bit of a difference here especially when you consider one of these guys has his whole career ahead of him still.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:29 PM   #99
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If Boogie didn't get hurt, New Orleans would be scary as hell. And Rondo would average 20 assists every game in the playoffs.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:32 PM   #100
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Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving are hall of famers. So that's 3 vs 4. And LeBron being as great as it is, the gaps even closer. So it's a shame he could only take 1 game off them if you want to play that game.
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I'll take the extra Hall of Fame player Green + fringe Hall of Fame player Iguodala over Tristan Thompson.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:35 PM   #101
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Draymond Green:
2× NBA champion (2015, 2017)
3× NBA All-Star (2016–2018)
All-NBA Second Team (2016)
All-NBA Third Team (2017)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2017)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2015–2017)
NBA steals leader (2017)
NABC National Player of the Year (2012)
Consensus first-team All-American (2012)
Big Ten Player of the Year (2012)
First-team All-Big Ten (2012)
2× Third-team All-Big Ten (2010, 2011)
Big Ten All-Defensive Team (2012)
Big Ten Sixth Man of the Year (2010)
Big Ten Tournament MVP (2012)
Fourth-team Parade All-American (2008)

Andre Iguodala:

2× NBA champion (2015, 2017)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
First-team All-Pac-10 (2004)

Bit of a difference here especially when you consider one of these guys has his whole career ahead of him still.
Lmao @ including college accolades. Especially the big 10 accolades. And you say that Draymond still has a whole career ahead of him...do you think he'll get better? He's already peaked in 2016. You think he'll get better or worse from now on?
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:37 PM   #102
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I'll take the extra Hall of Fame player Green + fringe Hall of Fame player Iguodala over Tristan Thompson.
So that's the difference in only winning 1 game? And the Cavs maybe could have had a better player in place of Thompson if you know who didn't force them into signing him for a big contract. But you never want to have that discussion...
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:37 PM   #103
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Evidently Iguodala is still a "fringe hof player" right now
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:08 PM   #104
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Curry and KD are HOFers, Draymond Green is a borderline HOFer.
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:28 PM   #105
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Lmao @ including college accolades. Especially the big 10 accolades. And you say that Draymond still has a whole career ahead of him...do you think he'll get better? He's already peaked in 2016. You think he'll get better or worse from now on?
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Basketball HOF counts college resume how do you think some of these guys even get in
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