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Old 08-22-2023, 03:44 PM   #2
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haha, remember when one of you guys said Brett Veach was a 'foot shuffling porter'? Which one of you was it, I don't remember, but that's a tough phrase to forget.

Who was it?
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:13 PM   #3
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Never said that . I have no Issues with Veach . Seems like no one here has ever worked for a big company. In big companies everyone is always the best in the world and great people to boot , until they hit the door . Then they sucked and their subordinates who stayed behind were the real stars all along . The same shit in my law firm every year for 33 years . It is human nature . So who is the fifth best player the Chiefs acquired in the last ten years . We know who the top four were. Would vote for Hunt . Guess Dorsey doesn’t get credit for him either ? No GM is perfect . Dorsey is a huge douche which may play a role in his employment status as his track record on top end talent would seem to be enough for him to find a home . Not dissing Veach but don’t make believe that Dorsey hasn’t played a role in their success
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:18 PM   #4
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He drafted CEH in the first round.

FAIL!
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:19 PM   #5
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He drafted CEH in the first round.

FAIL!
Yeah, well. Nobody's perfect. That one certainly hasn't worked out.
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Old 08-22-2023, 05:55 PM   #6
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Yeah, well. Nobody's perfect. That one certainly hasn't worked out.
If you remember, Mahomes was very high on CEH and wanted to draft him.
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:20 PM   #7
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nd Dorsey does receive some credit somewhere. He started stacking the roster with Veach and went to Cleveland and stacked that roster.
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:30 PM   #8
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Dorsey has been an aces personnel man. He must be truly miserable to work with, however.

His drafts were all money. Literally 100% of the players he drafted in the 1st round were Pro Bowlers, and he drafted 4 HOF players. And it might have been five had Kareem Hunt not been a massive tool.

His drafts were consistently very good to flat-out-great. He couldn't navigate free agency very efficiently, however, and couldn't manage the cap very well.

His job was different from Veach's, however. Dorsey took over a 2-14 team with Alex Smith at QB. He could afford to be patient, keep grinding tape and adding the best players he could find no matter what position they played.

Veach took over at the start of the Mahomes era, and his job has been to keep the team at Super Bowl caliber year in and year out, which sometimes means hyperaggression and narrow free agency targets. He was able to rebuild an entire 3-4 defense into a 4-3 defense in one offseason. He was able to completely rebuild the offensive line in a single offseason. He was able to completely rebuild the secondary in one offseason. He has been able to consistently plug holes at offensive skill positions. He's been able to max out the cap and still keep it healthy year after year.

The Chris Jones contract standoff has honestly been the nadir of his GM career so far, but I've no doubt he'll find a way to spin Jones into multiple draft picks and do something insane like rebuild the DL in a single offseason.
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Old 08-22-2023, 06:02 PM   #9
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Mahomes was not drafted a finished product. No expensive was spared in preparing him. That was not Dorsey's or Veach's doing
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Old 08-22-2023, 07:42 PM   #11
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Old 08-22-2023, 08:14 PM   #12
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Draft - L'Jarius Sneed, Willie Gay, Trey Smith, Creed Humphrey, Nick Bolton, Isaiah Pacheco.

Free Agency - Frank Clark, Tyrann Mathieu, Joe Thuney Orlando Brown Jr, Justin Reid, JJSS, MVS

Thats not including the multitude of solid role players that contributed to us winning, as well as multiple young guys/newly signed free agents that haven't proved themselves.
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Old 08-22-2023, 07:29 PM   #14
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Old 08-22-2023, 08:31 PM   #15
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Dorsey was a good drafter.

of course, Veach was his head scout, no?

But Dorsey was shit at cap management, and is apparently such an asshole that nobody wants to work with him, despite being a really good personnel guy.

So whatever.
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