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Old 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM  
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:00 PM   #151
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:00 PM   #152
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:00 PM   #153
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It's a 2020 2nd. It's basically Dee Ford's pick. (actually not-it's the lowest, which will be KC's)

AND we swap 3rds, so we move WAY up in the 3rd.

I don't hate it at all.

My ONLY concern is off the field issues.
You are completely ignoring opportunity cost. We lost the ability to draft cheap talent at #29 that gives us a 5th year option. We lost an additional 2020 round pick that had value both this year for a trade up and next year as a pick. We lost cap flexibility. And lastly, we also most likely lost one of four players that need to be re-signed in the coming two years.

We lost more than we gained. It's a bad trade no matter what you guys want to make yourselves believe. If your plan is to run a franchise for one season it's wonderful, but long term it was stupid as **** and very short sighted.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:01 PM   #154
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R. Wilson contract is why the Seahags did this.
same issue we are going to facing in 2 years.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:01 PM   #155
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Weren't people just complaining after we traded Ford and cut Houston that we didn't have any pass rushers?

Well we have a proven pass rusher and overall stud DE now.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:01 PM   #156
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:01 PM   #157
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Clark is twice the player Ford is.
He'll have to be to make the deal plausible. You have Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes, Kendall Fuller, Tyreek Hill coming up so you essentially said goodbye today to two of these guys, if not three. When you pay Mahomes, Clark and Jones big money, you better hope that stable of thoroughbreds holds up. If Clark does his best Justin Houston impression then Veach is gone.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:02 PM   #158
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:02 PM   #159
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Money. Seattle's got people to pay just like the Chiefs. Clark is definitely a win now move. How many edge/de guys have impacted for their team in their rookies season in the past decade? A handful at most. Chiefs still have 3 picks in the top 100 this year and next. Would have liked to gotten him cheaper but you got to pay for talent.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:02 PM   #161
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:02 PM   #162
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What DE was gonna be there at 29?

Also in case you missed it, the Chiefs have cap room they just got rid of Houston and Berry.

Also all of that shit doesn't matter cause in 2 years the cap will look vastly different after the lockout/strike.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:02 PM   #163
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The draft picks don't bother me so much -- I won't pretend to have watched a ton of Clark like apparently everyone here, and he's CLEARLY regarded in a tier closer to Mack than Ford -- but the money worries me when Jones, Hill and Mahomes are coming. We've just got so many big contracts.

Other than that, my main concern is ending up with yet another guy who doesn't live up to his contract. It's one thing manipulating the cap with guys who are actually worth $15-35m/year but another with a bunch of Houstons and Berrys.

BTW, people would've been happier about this 2 months ago just because the draft is 2 days away. Same for me. That excitement is gone now.

Same here. It’s the $$$$ and lack of club control that’s infuriating.
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This x 1000.

We just added a 25 year old Uber stud and all people care about is “OMG VEACH SUCKS AT TRADES”.

Guess what: we still have two seconds in a good second round. The chances that 29 becomes a guy as half as good as Clark are slim to none, and we’re trying to win now, so....
I swear sometimes this fan base is allergic to good players.

I watched this place, all offseason, celebrate the signing of replacement level players.

Like i said, good players cost assets. That's just the way it is. Want a stud? You have to pay for it.

They got a stud. Fantastic.

And they still have two 2nd's and a 3rd to wheel and deal, move around if they need to to acquire someone to improve the back end.

I don't like giving up the 1st but w/e.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:03 PM   #165
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