****Official 2017-2018 Missouri Tigers Basketball Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Back up in your ass with the resurrection. Follow the Cuonzo Martin era here.

Recruiting Commitments:

2017:
Michael Porter Jr., SF, *****, Gatorade National Player of the Year
CJ Roberts, PG, ****
Blake Harris, PG, ***/****
Jeremiah Tilmon, F/C, ****
Kassius Robertson, Grad Transfer
Jontay Porter (possible re-classification from Class of '18), ****

Departures: No one that matters
Returning Players: No one that matters

Overall class ranking: #6 nationally.

[DJ's left nut]

That's one of those games where it seems like everyone sucked but really they didn't.

Robertson and Barnett just sucked badly enough to almost lose it for them.

When the opponent is playing zone and your shooting guard and swingman can't hit an open look, you're gonna have a bad time.

The 2 or the 3 has to hit some jumpers to punish that zone and they couldn't throw a ball into the ocean.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Have to make open shots. Period. Do that, and it's an easy win. With this team, that is much easier said than done.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Everything that is wrong is fixable....
.
Quit slinging up 3's....
Work the ball into the paint....
Slow your shit down on offense....

This does not work anymore, has not worked, and will not work anymore.

The three is here to stay, and teams that cannot shoot the three will not win. Abandoning the three is only going to cause teams to pack the lane, which will make it impossible to actually work the ball into the paint.

The Wing-T and Maryland I are dead and buried in football, and for good reason.

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Have to make open shots. Period. Do that, and it's an easy win. With this team, that is much easier said than done.

Luckily Tilmon, Jontay, and I can’t believe I’m including him with those two, Nikko, battled their asses off tonight. Nikko has been serviceable so far this year.

[POND_OF_RED]

Watching Kassius Robertson force that terrible shot when we were up by two in the final minute with over 20 seconds left on the shot clock pretty much summed up the game. How does a college senior not understand that situation?

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Watching Kassius Robertson force that terrible shot when we were up by two in the final minute with over 20 seconds left on the shot clock pretty much summed up the game. How does a college senior not understand that situation?

Dreams of daggers danced through his head.

[Titty Meat]

Why do schools schedule games like Emporia State? You gain nothing by winning and if you lose its a disaster.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

Why do schools schedule games like Emporia State? You gain nothing by winning and if you lose its a disaster.

Because you can underperform and still pull out a win.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This does not work anymore, has not worked, and will not work anymore.

The three is here to stay, and teams that cannot shoot the three will not win. Abandoning the three is only going to cause teams to pack the lane, which will make it impossible to actually work the ball into the paint.

The Wing-T and Maryland I are dead and buried in football, and for good reason.

As a rule, absolutely right.

Last night, however, against a team that couldn't hang with them underneath at all and was giving up 6-8 inches per player, they could've (would've) won that game by 20 without shooting a single 3.

Shooters shoot - I get it. Robertson was bound and determine to shoot his way out of that slump, as was Barnett. But it damn near cost them what amounted to a glorified scrimmage.

They just didn't know how to deal with that zone. Harris seemed to have an idea, but he was the only one. He was constantly pushing it on a miss and trying to get down there before Emporia could get into their zone, but invariably he'd have nobody underneath before they could get back. If he had anyone running with him (Barnett and Puryear would've been the obvious choices), he'd have been able to get it to them underneath quickly and set up for easy buckets.

If you can't hit a jumper against a zone, you're gonna struggle. So you have to push to get them out of whack; too many guys on that squad last night seemed to have little interest in pushing the tempo.

Eh, like I said, I think the 'suckage' last night was a little overblown. They continued to turn the ball over WAY too much, but if their top 2 scorers could've done anything at all to actually score the ball, that game is as lopsided as it should've been. It's hard to win games when the 2 guys you most depend on for buckets can't buy one. Barnett could've helped things a little more by moving without the ball better; he seemed content to just stand in the corner and wait for a 3-ball.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

Why do schools schedule games like Emporia State? You gain nothing by winning and if you lose its a disaster.

Gives them a chance to run the offense against another team. They can make some errors without the fear of losing the game.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

As a rule, absolutely right.

Last night, however, against a team that couldn't hang with them underneath at all and was giving up 6-8 inches per player, they could've (would've) won that game by 20 without shooting a single 3.

Shooters shoot - I get it. Robertson was bound and determine to shoot his way out of that slump, as was Barnett. But it damn near cost them what amounted to a glorified scrimmage.

They just didn't know how to deal with that zone. Harris seemed to have an idea, but he was the only one. He was constantly pushing it on a miss and trying to get down there before Emporia could get into their zone, but invariably he'd have nobody underneath before they could get back. If he had anyone running with him (Barnett and Puryear would've been the obvious choices), he'd have been able to get it to them underneath quickly and set up for easy buckets.

If you can't hit a jumper against a zone, you're gonna struggle. So you have to push to get them out of whack; too many guys on that squad last night seemed to have little interest in pushing the tempo.

Eh, like I said, I think the 'suckage' last night was a little overblown. They continued to turn the ball over WAY too much, but if their top 2 scorers could've done anything at all to actually score the ball, that game is as lopsided as it should've been. It's hard to win games when the 2 guys you most depend on for buckets can't buy one. Barnett could've helped things a little more by moving without the ball better; he seemed content to just stand in the corner and wait for a 3-ball.

I actually think we're arguing a similar point. Part of pete's post was also saying that we needed to slow down on offense. Setting up in half court and playing a deliberate pace allows a less athletic team to set up on defense, the counter to which, as you argue correctly, is pushing the pace.

[Titty Meat]

MPJ needs back surgery out 3-4 months.


Sorry Mizzou fans.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

MPJ needs back surgery out 3-4 months.


Sorry Mizzou fans.

Link?

[Dartgod]

Awwwww, ****!

Statement from #Mizzou:

Michael Porter, Jr. will undergo surgery on Tuesday, Nov. 21, in Dallas, Texas. The procedure, a microdiscectomy of the L3-L4 spinal discs, has a projected recovery time of three-four months and will likely cause him to miss the remainder of the season.

— Mizzou Basketball (@MizzouHoops) November 21, 2017

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Link?

Statement from #Mizzou:

Michael Porter, Jr. will undergo surgery on Tuesday, Nov. 21, in Dallas, Texas. The procedure, a microdiscectomy of the L3-L4 spinal discs, has a projected recovery time of three-four months and will likely cause him to miss the remainder of the season.

— Mizzou Basketball (@MizzouHoops) November 21, 2017