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Old 11-21-2017, 04:16 PM  
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David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.



The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday.

I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback.

Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1).

Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season.

September: 92.0
October: 111.1
November: 63.5
Dec.-Jan.: 68.8

The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses.

I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses.

It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters.


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Old 11-21-2017, 04:37 PM   #16
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Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season.

September: 92.0
October: 111.1
November: 63.5
Dec.-Jan.: 68.8
He's ****ing finished.

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Old 11-21-2017, 04:38 PM   #17
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I hope the media pressure stays constant. We just need Alex to shit himself again vs Buffalo.
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So as long as we play in a climate controlled dome we might have a chance come playoff time. come to think of it the Colts and Texans playoff games were his most "impressive."
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:42 PM   #19
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So as long as we play in a climate controlled dome we might have a chance come playoff time. come to think of it the Colts and Texans playoff games were his most "impressive."
190 yards 1 TD and 1 INT is impressive? The defense and STs won that playoff game against the Texans.
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190 yards 1 TD and 1 INT is impressive? The defense and STs won that playoff game against the Texans.
True. if i remember right, we were in alot of short fields. I cant hold that against Smith.
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190 yards 1 TD and 1 INT is impressive? The defense and STs won that playoff game against the Texans.
Couldn't think of a better word. Maybe adequate?
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True. if i remember right, we were in alot of short fields. I cant hold that against Smith.
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The move was made to get Pat. It's only a matter of time, and I admit it's hard being patient right now.
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It’s crazy how we went from MVP to possibly being benched in the matter of one game.
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It’s crazy how we went from MVP to possibly being benched in the matter of one game.
He was never going to be an MVP
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It’s crazy how we went from MVP to possibly being benched in the matter of one game.
One game. Nah. 4-game stretch.
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He was never going to be an MVP


So should we nickname him.


Alex “ I was in the 2017 MVP talk that one time” Smith?
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So should we nickname him.


“ I was gonna be the MVP in 17, but then I woke up ”
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