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Direckshun · 07-06-2020, 09:20 PM

So the rocky two years we’re looking at, cap wise, are 2020 and 2021.

But Mahomes just opened up everything by taking a $500m deal that’s still, somehow, a sweetheart deal for those two years, cap-wise.

We are basically at the cap right now assuming our draft picks swallow up the 6m in cap space we have post-Mahomes.

Jones’ deal, if he were extended, could open up about 10m in 2020. And we could have the cap space in 2021 if we do some smart finangling like effectively replace Fisher with Niang and/or extend Tyrann Matthieu and Travis Kelce. All sorts of options on the table there.

Of course, Jones being traded still makes the most sense, given the Chiefs apparent inaction towards him. That would net us 16m, and give us additional draft ammunition to replace Watkins or Jones or Hitchens or any of our starting corners in 2021/2022.

Of course, Jones could simply be traded for a player we could use, like Ngakuoe or Brandon Scherff + draft capital, both options would cost the team less than the Jones megadeal, which would allow us to sign Snacks, or some such player.

Or Jones could be extended and the defense could get further fortified if some free agent studs like Clowney bring their price down.

Give Veach some credit here: if your goal was to get a Jones deal by the deadline, or a well-valued trade for him to get some assets or players in return, then you needed to knock this massive domino down. And not only did Veach do that, he did it in such as way as it gives the team endless flexibility with Mahomes’ contract through at least 2027.

We ain’t done yet, folks. This is the golden era of Chiefs football.

**Bugeater** · 07-06-2020, 09:22 PM

I'm not don't yet either! I am just getting started!

**Baby Lee** · 07-06-2020, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMONGOUS BONEREATER

I'm not don't yet either! I am just getting started!

Fitting that you would be the one to point out Direck's boner. . .

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 07-06-2020, 09:23 PM

Louis Riddick said on Sportscenter that the Chiefs are negotiating with Jones rn and hope to have a deal by July 15th. Said Mahomes and Jones deals were being worked in simultaneously. The reason why Mahomes probably got done forst is now it lays out exactly how much they need for Jones

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 07-06-2020, 09:35 PM

Starting to think Jones gets extended with a long term extension that is front loaded

THIS is why Mahomes' contract looks the way it does over the next three seasons. The #Chiefs signed off on a $477M contract today, but added only $30,000 of cap in 2020. https://t.co/jxmFxsNlUk
— Spotrac (@spotrac) July 7, 2020

**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2020, 09:41 AM

How long do the Chiefs have Veach under contract and locked up?

staylor26 · 07-07-2020, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

How long do the Chiefs have Veach under contract and locked up?

He’s not going anywhere either way.

**RealSNR** · 07-07-2020, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

How long do the Chiefs have Veach under contract and locked up?

Don't care. When is the last time a class-of-the-league GM bailed ship in the middle of a team's dynasty because the owner was dumb enough not to pay him?

That's all Hunt money, too. It's not cap money.

He's staying.

ChiefBlueCFC · 07-07-2020, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't care. When is the last time a class-of-the-league GM bailed ship in the middle of a team's dynasty because the owner was dumb enough not to pay him?

That's all Hunt money, too. It's not cap money.

He's staying.

It's just mere curiosity for me. Not concerned at all about him leaving or the Chiefs being unable to afford him

DrRyan · 07-07-2020, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't care. When is the last time a class-of-the-league GM bailed ship in the middle of a team's dynasty because the owner was dumb enough not to pay him?

That's all Hunt money, too. It's not cap money.

He's staying.

The Jimmy Johnson Jerruh dumbassery is the only one that comes to mind.

mililo4cpa · 07-07-2020, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't care. When is the last time a class-of-the-league GM bailed ship in the middle of a team's dynasty because the owner was dumb enough not to pay him?

That's all Hunt money, too. It's not cap money.

He's staying.

Agreed, particularly since the Chiefs are the type of organization that really wants longevity and consistency in their front office, the quintessential "family".

Obviously, there is some exception to that (Dorsey, 2007-2012), but it all feels right at this point (owner, coach, GM, QB, roster that all is working in harmony together).....

PAChiefsGuy · 07-07-2020, 12:51 PM

He isn't don't yet. Well that's good to know.

Bill Brasky · 07-08-2020, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't care. When is the last time a class-of-the-league GM bailed ship in the middle of a team's dynasty because the owner was dumb enough not to pay him?

That's all Hunt money, too. It's not cap money.

He's staying.

I can't even imagine the scenario where Hunt lets Veach walk. His toughest job yet is the next 10 years. We're going to need to draft at a very high level to keep winning.

Sassy Squatch · 07-08-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

I can't even imagine the scenario where Hunt lets Veach walk. His toughest job yet is the next 10 years. We're going to need to draft at a very high level to keep winning.

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

Coogs · 07-08-2020, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

Jury is still out on 2018. 1st round used to get Mahomes in 2017. Speaks still has a chance. Nandi is a keeper. Watts is not horrible.

07-06-2020, 09:20 PM	Topic Starter
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch	Believe it or not, Veach isn’t don’t yet. So the rocky two years we’re looking at, cap wise, are 2020 and 2021. But Mahomes just opened up everything by taking a $500m deal that’s still, somehow, a sweetheart deal for those two years, cap-wise. We are basically at the cap right now assuming our draft picks swallow up the 6m in cap space we have post-Mahomes. Jones’ deal, if he were extended, could open up about 10m in 2020. And we could have the cap space in 2021 if we do some smart finangling like effectively replace Fisher with Niang and/or extend Tyrann Matthieu and Travis Kelce. All sorts of options on the table there. Of course, Jones being traded still makes the most sense, given the Chiefs apparent inaction towards him. That would net us 16m, and give us additional draft ammunition to replace Watkins or Jones or Hitchens or any of our starting corners in 2021/2022. Of course, Jones could simply be traded for a player we could use, like Ngakuoe or Brandon Scherff + draft capital, both options would cost the team less than the Jones megadeal, which would allow us to sign Snacks, or some such player. Or Jones could be extended and the defense could get further fortified if some free agent studs like Clowney bring their price down. Give Veach some credit here: if your goal was to get a Jones deal by the deadline, or a well-valued trade for him to get some assets or players in return, then you needed to knock this massive domino down. And not only did Veach do that, he did it in such as way as it gives the team endless flexibility with Mahomes’ contract through at least 2027. We ain’t done yet, folks. This is the golden era of Chiefs football.
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