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Old 03-02-2024, 06:31 PM   #2
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Those teams also pick in the high 50's where his draft stock has been sitting the entire time. Not the 20s
It was never going to be a late 2.


He was always a 1st round prospect.
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Old 03-02-2024, 07:00 PM   #3
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It was never going to be a late 2.


He was always a 1st round prospect.
Yes, it was. I don't know what you're referencing but not a single source I reference ever had him in the 1st round conversation. Some had him in the mid-30s to mid-40s but very few. One was Brugler, which is why I gave you more benefit of the doubt on the thought and told you I wouldn't bash you about thinking he could be our 1st round pick.

But now you're just talking shit and it's kind of just like... he might still not be a 1st round pick. Hell, I'd say it's more likely than not he doesn't crack the 1st. His production isn't that great and he doesn't pop on tape very often. And teams go back to the tape. He never once looked 4.34 fast on tape. Never. He doesn't look good in his routes. So there's a lot to digest there for teams.

Personally, I like that he did come in heavier and faster than expected. But he's still in that group that couldn't crack 1000 yards in college. He never cracked 900 yards. So he's kind of in that McConkey, Coleman, Walker, Wilson, Pearsall, etc group where you have to project a bit more.
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Old 03-02-2024, 07:04 PM   #4
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Yes, it was. I don't know what you're referencing but not a single source I reference ever had him in the 1st round conversation. Some had him in the mid-30s to mid-40s but very few. One was Brugler, which is why I gave you more benefit of the doubt on the thought and told you I wouldn't bash you about thinking he could be our 1st round pick.

But now you're just talking shit and it's kind of just like... he might still not be a 1st round pick. Hell, I'd say it's more likely than not he doesn't crack the 1st. His production isn't that great and he doesn't pop on tape very often. And teams go back to the tape. He never once looked 4.34 fast on tape. Never. He doesn't look good in his routes. So there's a lot to digest there for teams.

Personally, I like that he did come in heavier and faster than expected. But he's still in that group that couldn't crack 1000 yards in college. He never cracked 900 yards. So he's kind of in that McConkey, Coleman, Walker, Wilson, Pearsall, etc group where you have to project a bit more.
Looks way better on his routes and as a football player than tiny Worthy who is 40 lbs lighter.

But we are just talking in circles now.
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Old 03-02-2024, 07:07 PM   #5
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Looks way better on his routes and as a football player than tiny Worthy who is 40 lbs lighter.

But we are just talking in circles now.
Yeah because I disagree with you 200% on Worthy before we even get to what I've already said about Mithcell.
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Old 03-02-2024, 07:13 PM   #6
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Yeah because I disagree with you 200% on Worthy before we even get to what I've already said about Mithcell.
If NFL teams agree with you he won’t go in the 1st.
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Old 03-02-2024, 07:21 PM   #7
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If NFL teams agree with you he won’t go in the 1st.
Which one?

I never said neither had a shot to go in the first but I have been far more confident about Worthy than Mitchell. I'm still not confident in Mitchell in the 1st. You have to put it up on the field too. Worthy did both. Epic combine. 1k WR. Torched #1 CBs. Mitchell did not. Mitchell has the potential to end up the long-term better player though, that I can see. He simply has better size, a true NFL #1 build. That doesn't mean he looks like a #1 right now because he doesn't.
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