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Old 11-17-2017, 07:45 AM  
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Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"

Anyone watch the unveil last night?



The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible.

- 0-60 in 5 sec
- 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs
- 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi
- 500 mile range
- 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge
- Guaranteed 7˘/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil
- Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road)
- 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown
- Will never need a brake change
- "Impossible" to jacknife
- Beats semis on economics day 1
- In convoy mode, beats rail on economics

300 miles of range: $150,000
500 miles of range: $180,000
Founders series: $200,000




https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas
The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg.

- 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars)
- 0-100 in 4.2
- 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec
- 250+ mph top speed
- 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling)
- 10,000 nm torque

and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars.



Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed.

https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA

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Old 05-12-2018, 09:51 AM   #151
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Wait, hold on, I thought Tesla used 18650's (or similar) that were made by other companies?
Maybe back in the day. They make their own these days (or at least they're working toward that).
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:09 AM   #152
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Maybe back in the day. They make their own these days (or at least they're working toward that).

I'm digging around and it looks like Panasonic makes 18650's for Tesla.
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Old 05-12-2018, 12:13 PM   #153
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I'm digging around and it looks like Panasonic makes 18650's for Tesla.
Wouldn't surprise me if they're still buying a lot from outside suppliers for now while they try and ramp up production. In the long run, they want to make all of them in these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory_1

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Old 05-12-2018, 01:17 PM   #154
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Maybe Musk will one day wake up and begin manufacturing products that people want.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:23 PM   #155
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Maybe Musk will one day wake up and begin manufacturing products that people want.
I get not like Tesla, and I get people thinking Musk is an idiot.

But the Model 3 is the most desired car of all time. As in the history of the world. Clearly people want what he's making.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:59 PM   #156
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I get not like Tesla, and I get people thinking Musk is an idiot.

But the Model 3 is the most desired car of all time. As in the history of the world. Clearly people want what he's making.
I would like it if Musk would stop sucking at the government teat and see if his business would survive then.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:24 PM   #157
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I would like it if Musk would stop sucking at the government teat and see if his business would survive then.
They’d close their doors tomorrow. He’s a generational idea man but needs to leave the implementation and manufacturing to people that know how to do it.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:35 PM   #158
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I would like it if Musk would stop sucking at the government teat and see if his business would survive then.
Once oil subsidies are removed, you might have a point.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:38 PM   #159
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Once oil subsidies are removed, you might have a point.
There are no oil subsidies unless you are talking about the deductions that every business can take. Also, that fact that mineral resource accounting is a lot different from regular accounting.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:39 PM   #160
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They’d close their doors tomorrow. He’s a generational idea man but needs to leave the implementation and manufacturing to people that know how to do it.
You realize that he had stepped back to let another guy lead the ramp up, right? And that, after he took back over a couple months ago they seem to be back on track?
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:39 PM   #161
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There are no oil subsidies unless you are talking about the deductions that every business can take. Also, that fact that mineral resource accounting is a lot different from regular accounting.
No government bailouts of other car manufacturers either, right?
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:40 PM   #162
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No government bailouts of other car manufacturers either, right?
Sure but that isn't an oil and gas subsidy.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:43 PM   #163
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You realize that he had stepped back to let another guy lead the ramp up, right? And that, after he took back over a couple months ago they seem to be back on track?
Yes, and true to a certain extent.My point was that from an investor standpoint they don’t always inspire confidence.



May 12, 2018: 1:04 PM ET
The top dog on Tesla's engineering team is taking a leave of absence at a crucial moment for the company and its first mass-market car, the Model 3.
The electric car maker said in a statement that Doug Field, its senior vice president of engineering, "is just taking some time off to recharge and spend time with his family."
"He has not left Tesla," the statement added. A spokesperson could not confirm how long the leave of absence would last or the reason for Field's temporary departure.

The news was reported earlier by the Wall Street Journal.
Field has been with Tesla since 2013, and he's served as Tesla's engineering chief since September 2016.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in a tweet that, sometime in mid-2017, he asked Field to take over both manufacturing and engineering for the Model 3.
But, earlier this year, Musk decided it was "better to divide & conquer."
"My job as CEO is to focus on what's most critical, which is currently Model 3 production," he said. "So I'm back to sleeping at factory. Car biz is hell."
He added that he views Field as "one of the world's most talented engineering execs."


Field's leave of absence comes as Tesla is attempting to assuage investors' fears about the company's ability to ramp up production of the Model 3.
After months of manufacturing issues that have left Tesla repeatedly falling short of its production goals, the company's latest earnings release showed Tesla may finally be getting back on track.
But then a bizarre conference call earlier this month — in which Musk refused to answer questions from two Wall Street analyst and called their quesitons "boring" — appeared to rattle investors.

Shares of Tesla sunk about 5% after the call during off-hours trading.
The company's stock has rebounded slightly over the past five days, but its price remains well below its all-time high of more than $380 per share.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/12/tech...l-3/index.html
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:48 PM   #164
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Yes, and true to a certain extent.My point was that from an investor standpoint they don’t always inspire confidence.



May 12, 2018: 1:04 PM ET
The top dog on Tesla's engineering team is taking a leave of absence at a crucial moment for the company and its first mass-market car, the Model 3.
The electric car maker said in a statement that Doug Field, its senior vice president of engineering, "is just taking some time off to recharge and spend time with his family."
"He has not left Tesla," the statement added. A spokesperson could not confirm how long the leave of absence would last or the reason for Field's temporary departure.

The news was reported earlier by the Wall Street Journal.
Field has been with Tesla since 2013, and he's served as Tesla's engineering chief since September 2016.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in a tweet that, sometime in mid-2017, he asked Field to take over both manufacturing and engineering for the Model 3.
But, earlier this year, Musk decided it was "better to divide & conquer."
"My job as CEO is to focus on what's most critical, which is currently Model 3 production," he said. "So I'm back to sleeping at factory. Car biz is hell."
He added that he views Field as "one of the world's most talented engineering execs."


Field's leave of absence comes as Tesla is attempting to assuage investors' fears about the company's ability to ramp up production of the Model 3.
After months of manufacturing issues that have left Tesla repeatedly falling short of its production goals, the company's latest earnings release showed Tesla may finally be getting back on track.
But then a bizarre conference call earlier this month — in which Musk refused to answer questions from two Wall Street analyst and called their quesitons "boring" — appeared to rattle investors.

Shares of Tesla sunk about 5% after the call during off-hours trading.
The company's stock has rebounded slightly over the past five days, but its price remains well below its all-time high of more than $380 per share.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/12/tech...l-3/index.html
Musk actively suggests that people don't invest in Tesla if they are hoping for great returns. Money has never been his driving force.
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Old 05-12-2018, 03:15 PM   #165
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Maybe Musk will one day wake up and begin manufacturing products that people want.
Tesla demand is NOT the issue. People clearly yearn for Teslas. Being able to produce them quickly is the issue. Tesla is one of the highest rated brands in the US and has superb brand loyalty. Combine that with innovative tech is no wonder they have such demand & strong support. The day they announced the semi many large companies jumped on the waiting list.

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