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**Reaper16** · 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM

Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.

Miles · 07-29-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess that's where we differ: He's ALWAYS been that guy.

Once he realized that his personal life was invading his professional space, he snapped back "into place" and became the calm, cool, electrifying Don Draper we all know.

I think it would have been FAR more interesting if the Korean Vet that interviewed him actually knew a "Don Draper", instead of what occurred.

For the first time ever in this series, I feel that Weiner dropped the ball. He may redeem himself down the line with an episode that ties into this one in a big way, but it still felt like an "introductory" episode to me.

He has never really been the guy he shifted to. Never remotely shared anything publicly. He will always be the same but the shift was to him manufacturing the big swinging dick personality the firm needs.

**Reaper16** · 07-30-2010, 01:47 AM

WTF is Dane talking about? Do we even watch the same shows?

Red Brooklyn · 07-30-2010, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What browser are you using?

If you see a word underlined in red after typing, right click on the word, then select the correct spelling.

It's not "forum dependent", it's "browser dependent".

Thanks, man. I usually posting at work so there are a lot of restrictions that require admin approval. I'll hook it up on my home PC though.

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No, he was spelling it correctly. He meant her performance filled him with awe. And he thinks movies with babies are awwful.

I need to start watching this show...

**Baby Lee** · 07-30-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess that's where we differ: He's ALWAYS been that guy.

Once he realized that his personal life was invading his professional space, he snapped back "into place" and became the calm, cool, electrifying Don Draper we all know.

I think it would have been FAR more interesting if the Korean Vet that interviewed him actually knew a "Don Draper", instead of what occurred.

For the first time ever in this series, I feel that Weiner dropped the ball. He may redeem himself down the line with an episode that ties into this one in a big way, but it still felt like an "introductory" episode to me.

Absolutely not. Don changed from the guy whose 'story' is private and irrelevant, because he was the employee who came up with the brilliant pitches, to the face of the organization.
He didn't want to pitch a story for himself in part because it's manufactured, and in part because he loathes parts of what makes him tick.
He thought he could be the face without a backstory, but when it cost them business, he realized the face has to have a story.

Demonpenz · 07-30-2010, 09:19 AM

Don Draper Scarface arrrrrg

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-30-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Absolutely not. Don changed from the guy whose 'story' is private and irrelevant, because he was the employee who came up with the brilliant pitches, to the face of the organization.
He didn't want to pitch a story for himself in part because it's manufactured, and in part because he loathes parts of what makes him tick.
He thought he could be the face without a backstory, but when it cost them business, he realized the face has to have a story.

I get that but it's still not "him", as in the real him, Dick Whitman

It's Don Draper, the fabrication.

That's what I found interesting about the opening line: "Who is Don Draper?". It has a double-edged meaning.

I'm glad you all enjoyed, I was just expecting more.

Silock · 07-30-2010, 10:31 AM

I liked it. There's now a 3rd layer to Don Draper. Dick the pussy, Don the cool, collected, and Don the Don Juan.

Silock · 08-01-2010, 10:51 PM

Is Glenn the creepiest kid ever?

Miles · 08-01-2010, 11:55 PM

Didn't realize that Glenn is played by Matthew Weiner's kid.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-02-2010, 05:29 PM

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**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-03-2010, 07:04 AM

man I love this show. May be the best thing on television at the moment.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-03-2010, 11:08 AM

I guess my expectations for season four were way too high because I'm bored with the direction of the show.

**Reaper16** · 08-08-2010, 10:03 PM

This show is sooooo ****ing good.

SLAG · 08-09-2010, 01:03 AM

yes another solid episode tonight -

Tonight we saw the Real Dick Whitman

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-09-2010, 09:38 PM

Okay, I REALLY liked last night's episode.

The writers really touched a nerve last night with both Dick hitting on the young girl and the fate of Anna. For the first time this year, it felt like the story was moving forward. It was a very, very good episode all around.

Although, I hope they don't go all cliche with Joan and her doctor husband heading to Vietnam (he's killed, she's devastated for a while, then goes back to bangin' around).

07-26-2010, 12:51 AM
Reaper16 Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat Reaper16's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dystopia	Mad Men Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate. Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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07-30-2010, 01:47 AM	#32
Reaper16 Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat Reaper16's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dystopia	WTF is Dane talking about? Do we even watch the same shows?
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07-30-2010, 09:19 AM	#35
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Demonpenz's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"	Don Draper Scarface arrrrrg
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07-30-2010, 10:31 AM	#37
Silock MVP Silock's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park	I liked it. There's now a 3rd layer to Don Draper. Dick the pussy, Don the cool, collected, and Don the Don Juan.
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08-01-2010, 10:51 PM	#38
Silock MVP Silock's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park	Is Glenn the creepiest kid ever?
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08-01-2010, 11:55 PM	#39
Miles MVP Miles's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX	Didn't realize that Glenn is played by Matthew Weiner's kid.
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08-03-2010, 11:08 AM	#42
DaneMcCloud Supporter DaneMcCloud's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA	I guess my expectations for season four were way too high because I'm bored with the direction of the show.
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08-08-2010, 10:03 PM	#43
Reaper16 Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat Reaper16's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dystopia	This show is sooooo ****ing good.
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08-09-2010, 01:03 AM	#44
SLAG Superbowl MVP SLAG's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOLATHE	yes another solid episode tonight - Tonight we saw the Real Dick Whitman
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08-09-2010, 09:38 PM	#45
DaneMcCloud Supporter DaneMcCloud's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA	Okay, I REALLY liked last night's episode. The writers really touched a nerve last night with both Dick hitting on the young girl and the fate of Anna. For the first time this year, it felt like the story was moving forward. It was a very, very good episode all around. Although, I hope they don't go all cliche with Joan and her doctor husband heading to Vietnam (he's killed, she's devastated for a while, then goes back to bangin' around).
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