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Old 11-06-2020, 02:38 PM   #2
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Great story about Shatner. I've really gotten sick of all the other actors bagging on him for shit that he did decades ago, especially Takei. Is there anything that guy isn't butthurt about? The way he whines about everything reminds me of what you once said about Henley; how nobody who has enjoyed so much success has any right to be so miserable.
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Old 11-15-2020, 01:38 PM   #3
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especially Takei. Is there anything that guy isn't butthurt about?
Ewwww.
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:23 PM   #4
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Yea I missed the V-ger Borg connection. That's tits.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:09 PM   #6
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I'm a big fan of Nemesis myself.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:13 PM   #7
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Half Vulcan and Half Romulan wouldn't really be a meaningful thing in that sense, although I suppose that part of the mythos hadn't been developed yet when Wrath of Khan was written. Because as it turns out, Romulans are just Vulcans who left Vulcan. It's a philosophical or cultural difference, rather than a biological one.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:23 PM   #8
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Half Vulcan and Half Romulan wouldn't really be a meaningful thing in that sense, although I suppose that part of the mythos hadn't been developed yet when Wrath of Khan was written. Because as it turns out, Romulans are just Vulcans who left Vulcan. It's a philosophical or cultural difference, rather than a biological one.
That's oversimplifying it a bit, I think. Romulans are descended from Vulcans who left Vulcan centuries ago. There were subtle differences in appearance between the races. The main idea is that Saavik wouldn't be able to suppress her emotions as easily as a full-blooded Vulcan, and likely experienced the same types of prejudices that Spock endured as a child. There were several scenes in II where she looked like she wanted to slap Kirk upside the head.

But yeah, we're debating the finer points of the lineage of a movie character from 1982 based on years worth of additional information that came later. There's probably not a wrong viewpoint here.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:29 PM   #9
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Yeah, but what else are two old guys with too much accumulated useless knowledge going to argue about on the internet after they should both be asleep...
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:32 PM   #10
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Yeah, but what else are two old guys with too much accumulated useless knowledge going to argue about on the internet after they should both be asleep...
Exactly.
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Old 11-11-2020, 02:38 PM   #11
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Yeah, but what else are two old guys with too much accumulated useless knowledge going to argue about on the internet after they should both be asleep...
This is pretty much how this thread got started.
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:21 PM   #12
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"The Chase" from TNG was criminally underplayed.

Humans, Cardassians, Romulans, and Klingons find out they all came from the same DNA.

They could have took the concept and made it into an epic movie to end the TNG timeline. Instead it was wasted and forgotten.
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:52 PM   #13
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"The Chase" from TNG was criminally underplayed.

Humans, Cardassians, Romulans, and Klingons find out they all came from the same DNA.

They could have took the concept and made it into an epic movie to end the TNG timeline. Instead it was wasted and forgotten.
It was a good episode, but my take on it was just them trying to explain how species from different planets all over the galaxy shared enough similar biologic traits to mate and product offspring.
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Old 11-13-2020, 04:40 PM   #14
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I was never a Star Trek kid. (Always Star Wars!!!)

Until a few years ago... when I watched Star Trek The Original Motion Picture.
I absolutely loved it... and went through the entire movie series.

Then, I went back and watched the original Series just to get a respect for Shatner (What a badass he was back then).

I then got into (The Next Generation) because I remembered hating it as a kid... but this time around, damn good show!

Then I did Star Trek Discovery which was entertaining through Season 1 and got too stupid in season 2 so I quit.

I've yet to touch Deep Space Nine or Nemesis.

I just went back and re-watched Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness and loved them even the second time through. What a great casting they did on those films. Benedict as Kahn, Pine as Kirk, Bones, Sulu... Loved them all.
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Old 11-13-2020, 06:31 PM   #15
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I was never a Star Trek kid. (Always Star Wars!!!)

Until a few years ago... when I watched Star Trek The Original Motion Picture.
I absolutely loved it... and went through the entire movie series.

Then, I went back and watched the original Series just to get a respect for Shatner (What a badass he was back then).

I then got into (The Next Generation) because I remembered hating it as a kid... but this time around, damn good show!

Then I did Star Trek Discovery which was entertaining through Season 1 and got too stupid in season 2 so I quit.

I've yet to touch Deep Space Nine or Nemesis.

I just went back and re-watched Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness and loved them even the second time through. What a great casting they did on those films. Benedict as Kahn, Pine as Kirk, Bones, Sulu... Loved them all.
Wow. This must be the most assbackwards way of becoming a Star Trek fan I've ever heard.

DS9 is probably overall the best Star Trek series. The first three seasons are a bit mundane, but starting in Season 4 Worf joins the cast as a regular and after that it soars. It is far and away the darkest and most violent series, and despite Captain Kirk being my hero since childhood, I have to admit that Sisko is the best overall captain.
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