***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Yes......but it also means the increase is just beginning....

Na, not really. The true hotspots were doubling every 2-3 days at one point. Everyone would love for things to be better, but none of those states are really going crazy compared to what's been seen elsewhere.

[MagicHef]

Half life of COVID-19 under quarter intensity sunlight (clear winter day) is 4 minutes.

https://www.scribd.com/document/456897616/DHSST

[Pants]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Half life of COVID-19 under quarter intensity sunlight (clear winter day) is 4 minutes.

https://www.scribd.com/document/456897616/DHSST

So everyone just needs to wear an omnidirectional UV light. Problem solved.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

For a “whopping” total of 551 new cases combined between all 5 states yesterday according to worldometers. Meaning if you put those 5 states together they still had less new cases than 15 of the states with stay at home orders. Or around 7% of the new cases in New York alone. Doesn’t seem as scary when you actually put all the numbers out there now does it?

Have to use those percentages to get across their desired message: fear.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by Pants

So everyone just needs to wear an omnidirectional UV light. Problem solved.

I read that like this...Late Spring/Summer is gonna whoop this virus. America.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

I read that like this...Late Spring/Summer is gonna whoop this virus. America.

Unfortunately 4 min half life with UV radiation might help with the virus on structures but that might not help with being in close proximity to other humans.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Huge bump in coronavirus in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma - 53% increase in cases over the past week. Cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.https://t.co/HfrZlWgzzO

— Jonathan Metzl (@JonathanMetzl) April 17, 2020

Damn! Close that shit back down fr fr

[F150]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

For a “whopping” total of 551 new cases combined between all 5 states yesterday according to worldometers. Meaning if you put those 5 states together they still had less new cases than 15 of the states with stay at home orders. Or around 7% of the new cases in New York alone. Doesn’t seem as scary when you actually put all the numbers out there now does it?

Jonathan Metzl is trying to sell his book.

[F150]

New Data Suggest the Coronavirus Isn’t as Deadly as We Thought
A study finds 50 to 85 times as many infections as known cases—meaning a far lower fatality rate.

How deadly is the coronavirus? A new study finds a far lower fatality rate than most experts thought, writes Andrew Bogan https://t.co/McOoBAI9Hj

— Brit Hume (@brithume) April 18, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

For a “whopping” total of 551 new cases combined between all 5 states yesterday according to worldometers. Meaning if you put those 5 states together they still had less new cases than 15 of the states with stay at home orders. Or around 7% of the new cases in New York alone. Doesn’t seem as scary when you actually put all the numbers out there now does it?

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

sorry man. But, this is the reality of the situation for many. I’ve been there 100’s of times the first time the patient realizes they survived. You can see the fear. It’s not pleasant but part of the process to getting back to normal.

People don’t think about the trauma to the psych if you survive a vent. Some on here know people or family that were on vents. Awareness that it may not be over for their family and friends when they survive might be useful information.

You forgot to bring up the horrific description of Ards again for the 100th time too. Just making sure you didn’t leave anything out with your vast medical expertise. Doctor BigRedChief PHD™️

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by F150

New Data Suggest the Coronavirus Isn’t as Deadly as We Thought
A study finds 50 to 85 times as many infections as known cases—meaning a far lower fatality rate.

How deadly is the coronavirus? A new study finds a far lower fatality rate than most experts thought, writes Andrew Bogan https://t.co/McOoBAI9Hj

— Brit Hume (@brithume) April 18, 2020

First that doesn't mean it isn't deadly. But yes, I saw this too and tend to agree. Many have tired to play it both ways. On one hand they want to say how deadly it is and point to the CFR or whatever as proof. On the other hand they swear there are millions more cases we don't know about.

So either millions of people are dropping dead that we don't know about or yes, even though this is some bad shit, it isn't as deadly as some suggest.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Huge bump in coronavirus in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma - 53% increase in cases over the past week. Cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.https://t.co/HfrZlWgzzO

— Jonathan Metzl (@JonathanMetzl) April 17, 2020

53% sounds scary until you actually look it up and see that it’s 100-150 cases a day. There’s four million of us here. We’re at .00062% infection rate and .000034% death rate. Settle down with the scare tactics already.

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Huge bump in coronavirus in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma - 53% increase in cases over the past week. Cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.https://t.co/HfrZlWgzzO

— Jonathan Metzl (@JonathanMetzl) April 17, 2020

In comparison. My town in NJ has a population of 50,000 people. We have about 330 positive cases right now. It’s going up about 20 each day.


I’d hardly say that Midwest bump is huge

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by 2112

In comparison. My town in NJ has a population of 50,000 people. We have about 330 positive cases right now. It’s going up about 20 each day.


I’d hardly say that Midwest bump is huge

We might as well buy our headstones now.