***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

the math says we will have 1000 people die on a single day this weekend.

you mean globally? Or are you stating in the US we will have 1.25 times the deaths in one day that we have had in 2 weeks?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by tk13

For all the doom and gloom, I am hopeful that the numbers won't get that high. It will get into the millions if we do nothing basically, or very little. I think there will reach a point where all the people who are like "it's the flu" will start taking it seriously. Unfortunately I don't think that moment will come until it becomes very clear that this is a thing that is killing tens of thousands of people.

It is not going to get as bad as some are making it out to be. Not in this country anyway.

[oaklandhater]

The 50 states in US feel like 50 different countries each trying to do its own thing. I see more collective effort from other big countries that have state/provincial governments.


The U.S needs one direction.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

the math says we will have 1000 people die on a single day this weekend.

We are about 7-10 days away from peek deaths hopefully due to what we are doing with social distancing. We are doing better than most on the death rate so I’m hoping it takes a little bit longer than this weekend to hit that number. Other countries death rate percentages are going to be higher than ours...

It wouldn’t surprise me either way, we have mor population at risk than other countries sans China and India and I don’t trust xhinas numbers at all

[oaklandhater]

US trending 1.5x faser than China, 3x faster than Italy. NY may be stabilizing 🙌 Hats off to CA, MA, and NH for trending down! See highlighted daily trend vs China #covid19 #coronavirus #cdc #usa #stayhome #cali #nyc #ny #ma #nh pic.twitter.com/ypjqFUP5q5

— andrew forcier (@andyforcier) March 25, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Georgia hospitals have been reusing masks. Now 2 health care workers are dead. Neither worked in the ICU or ER.

A Georgia health care worker dies of coronavirus: "The woman, 42, had been dead 12 to 16 hours when police, checking on her welfare, discovered her body...Her child, apparently 4 or 5 years old, was in the home at the time." From @AJC https://t.co/h4viiGtkKi

— Tim Sullivan (@ByTimSullivan) March 24, 2020

[petegz28]

Some of you seriously just need to ****ing relax

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=5EA1FD2F

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by petegz28

you mean globally? Or are you stating in the US we will have 1.25 times the deaths in one day that we have had in 2 weeks?

Pete ... globally there was 2.3k deaths today...
a week ago we were @ 1k per day, and 2 weeks ago 400.

Do you not see a trend?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Georgia hospitals have been reusing masks. Now 2 health care workers are dead. Neither worked in the ICU or ER.

A Georgia health care worker dies of coronavirus: "The woman, 42, had been dead 12 to 16 hours when police, checking on her welfare, discovered her body...Her child, apparently 4 or 5 years old, was in the home at the time." From @AJC https://t.co/h4viiGtkKi

— Tim Sullivan (@ByTimSullivan) March 24, 2020

It's almost like you aren't happy unless you are painting a doom and gloom scenario with every one of your posts.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Pete ... globally there was 2.3k deaths today...
a week ago we were @ 1k per day, and 2 weeks ago 400.

Do you not see a trend?

"Let's see where it is in 14 days."

[carlos3652]

Us was averaging 40 deaths per day a week ago, today 225. One day is not a trend but if we have 250-300 tomorrow it will be trending that way also

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Pete ... globally there was 2.3k deaths today...
a week ago we were @ 1k per day, and 2 weeks ago 400.

Do you not see a trend?

That's not what I asked.

I see all kinds of trends. Like our country has been and is continuing to run an a death rate of less than half of the global average.

You guys continue to discount any mitigation of any kind whatsoever.

So, I will ask again, are you saying on a single day this weekend 1,000 people are going to die in the US alone?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

"Let's see where it is in 14 days."

Exactly. 14 days ago we were told that by today our streets were supposed to be flooded with dead bodies because Italy was bad but had a much better health care system than we do.

Seriously. That's what a lot of people were saying and you know that to be true as well.

[carlos3652]

I’m not all gloom and doom, but it’s time to take off the Rose colored glasses off and start looking at this seriously. Grateful I live in the us and no the European Union, South America or China. When it’s all said and done our country would have handled this properly by making sure people that need it get ventilators and icu beds. Those other places can’t mass produce like we can.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Us was averaging 40 deaths per day a week ago, today 225. One day is not a trend but if we have 250-300 tomorrow it will be trending that way also

We had 225 new deaths today. over half of those from the most densely populated area in the country.

You have to have some context on this.