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**DaFace** · 02-23-2018, 02:41 PM

Just trying to come to terms with the fact that we're trading arguably the best CB we've had in my lifetime because he's a bit of a head case. Are there other examples in the NFL where a top-five player at his position has been traded because he's a bit nuts? If so, how did it work out?

Randy Moss comes to mind. Maybe Aqib Talib. But I'm not sure those rise to the level of this.

**Rain Man** · 02-23-2018, 02:46 PM

Jared Allen, perhaps? But Jared actually carried some legal risk.

I despise trading good players for draft picks. The hit rate on draft picks means that you have to get lucky to break even.

Eleazar · 02-23-2018, 02:47 PM

Well, if he tried to fight coaches and security personnel and if he asked to be traded anyway, then it is a fairly unprecedented situation all the way around.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-23-2018, 02:47 PM

Patrick Surtain was a 3 time Pro Bowler, first and second team All Pro in three years before he was traded to the Chiefs.

His production dropped off so dramatically after he was traded to the Chiefs that you'd think the Dolphins sent the wrong player.

oaklandhater · 02-23-2018, 02:54 PM

https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/wo...tml/?a=viewall

Houston Oilers give away Steve Largent

For some strange reason, the Houston Oilers were never truly sold on Largent. They selected him in the fourth round of the 1976 NFL Draft, and actually planned on releasing the future Hall of Famer before he even played a down of football for them during the regular season.

The Oilers would trade Largent to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for an eighth-round draft pick in what would ultimately go down as one of the worst NFL trades of all time. As history would have it, Largent would go on to be named All-Pro seven times, earn seven Pro Bowl selections, lead the league in receiving yards twice, catch 819 passes for 13,089 and 100 touchdowns, and get inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-23-2018, 02:57 PM

Denver traded Brandon Marshall when he was 25 for a couple of second rounders.

oaklandhater · 02-23-2018, 02:59 PM

Washington Trading Champ Bailey in his prime for a RB also seems pretty terrible looking back on it.

**Rain Man** · 02-23-2018, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Well, if he tried to fight coaches and security personnel and if he asked to be traded anyway, then it is a fairly unprecedented situation all the way around.

Ray Lewis laundered a murdered man's blood from his shirt and wasn't traded. Von Miller was named as a witness in a mass murder because he had been with the murderers that day. Aaron Hernandez was killing people in the concession area of Gillette Stadium (or something like that). Surely the Chiefs can figure out how to manage some fisticuffs.

BWillie · 02-23-2018, 03:05 PM

Didn't Terrell Owens get traded for being a dbag?

KranzDictum · 02-23-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Washington Trading Champ Bailey in his prime for a RB also seems pretty terrible looking back on it.

That was over money, not because Champ was fighting coaches and being a head case. Plus Washington got Portis who had some great seasons for them though not for as long as Champ did.

KranzDictum · 02-23-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Denver traded Brandon Marshall when he was 25 for a couple of second rounders.

Also traded Cutler because he got into with mCd the day they talked (did they actually meet or was that over the phone) at Dove Valley.

Both guys were head cases, I would argue that Marshall was the better player and I think a lot of people would agree but Jay was going into only his 3rd year as a QB at the time but never performed at the level of other guys mentioned in this thread.

Molitoth · 02-23-2018, 03:09 PM

Deion Sanders?

Tombstone RJ · 02-23-2018, 03:13 PM

I personally think that KC probably got next year's first, and this years 2nd and 3rd?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-23-2018, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I personally think that KC probably got next year's first, and this years 2nd and 3rd?

Please explain how the Chiefs could have acquired the Rams 2nd round pick, when that pick has already been traded to the Bills.

TIA, Butt****.

Tombstone RJ · 02-23-2018, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please explain how the Chiefs could have acquired the Rams 2nd round pick, when that pick has already been traded to the Bills.

TIA, Butt****.

So, this year's first and third?

02-23-2018, 02:41 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod DaFace's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land	What precedents are there for the Peters trade? Just trying to come to terms with the fact that we're trading arguably the best CB we've had in my lifetime because he's a bit of a head case. Are there other examples in the NFL where a top-five player at his position has been traded because he's a bit nuts? If so, how did it work out? Randy Moss comes to mind. Maybe Aqib Talib. But I'm not sure those rise to the level of this.
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02-23-2018, 02:46 PM	#2
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	Jared Allen, perhaps? But Jared actually carried some legal risk. I despise trading good players for draft picks. The hit rate on draft picks means that you have to get lucky to break even.
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02-23-2018, 02:47 PM	#3
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Eleazar's Avatar Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA	Well, if he tried to fight coaches and security personnel and if he asked to be traded anyway, then it is a fairly unprecedented situation all the way around.
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DaneMcCloud Supporter DaneMcCloud's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA	Patrick Surtain was a 3 time Pro Bowler, first and second team All Pro in three years before he was traded to the Chiefs. His production dropped off so dramatically after he was traded to the Chiefs that you'd think the Dolphins sent the wrong player.
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02-23-2018, 02:54 PM	#5
oaklandhater future chiefs fans oaklandhater's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california	https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/wo...tml/?a=viewall Houston Oilers give away Steve Largent For some strange reason, the Houston Oilers were never truly sold on Largent. They selected him in the fourth round of the 1976 NFL Draft, and actually planned on releasing the future Hall of Famer before he even played a down of football for them during the regular season. The Oilers would trade Largent to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for an eighth-round draft pick in what would ultimately go down as one of the worst NFL trades of all time. As history would have it, Largent would go on to be named All-Pro seven times, earn seven Pro Bowl selections, lead the league in receiving yards twice, catch 819 passes for 13,089 and 100 touchdowns, and get inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Denver traded Brandon Marshall when he was 25 for a couple of second rounders.
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oaklandhater future chiefs fans oaklandhater's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california	Washington Trading Champ Bailey in his prime for a RB also seems pretty terrible looking back on it.
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BWillie Future NBA Finals MVP BWillie's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Earth	Didn't Terrell Owens get traded for being a dbag?
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Molitoth's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2004	Deion Sanders?
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Tombstone RJ Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire! Tombstone RJ's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver	I personally think that KC probably got next year's first, and this years 2nd and 3rd?
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