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Old 04-06-2018, 09:18 PM  
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The season is upon us, even if spring is not.

2018 MLB Draft Picks
#18
#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.

Current Prospects to Watch:

OF Seuly Matias - Huge tools. Hit 2 HR in Lexington (A) season opener.

1B Nick Pratto - Top pick in 17 has advanced approach and good glove; needs to start tapping into power in first full year in minors. Also at Lexington.

OF Michael Gigliotti - Good defender in CF, good OBP skills, plus baserunner. Next mainstay in CF for KC, IMO. Advanced college bat also starting at Lexington.

OF Khalil Lee - Probably has highest upside in Royals' system. Could hit 30 HR in majors, could steal 30 bases. Plus defensive ability in RF. Nice test at Wilmington this year.

3B Emmanuel Rivera - Really nice approach and good contact skills. Power is still developing. Also getting a good test at Wilmington.

SP Foster Griffin - Made nice strides in 2017. Needs to continue to progress in 2018. Could be a lefty version of Jakob Junis (good breaking ball that he can really manipulate, OK fastball, good command).

1B Samir Duenez - Duenez still is intriguing, hoping for a step forward in his power production this year at Northwest Arkansas, which would turn him into a legit prospect.

Others to keep an eye on:
SP Gerson Garabito (Wilmington), OF Marten Gasparini (Lexington), C MJ Melendez (Lexington), RP Tyler Zuber (lexington), RP Richard Lovelady (Omaha), SP Dan Tillo (Lexington), SS Nicky Lopez (NWA), SP Scott Blewett (NWA), OF Brewer Hicklen (Idaho Falls),

In general, Lexington and Wilmington are the most interesting spots to watch. Nice depth and a lot of interesting pieces at both.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:21 PM   #1696
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:22 PM   #1697
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To me this feels like the Greinke trade. The Royals got assets that aren’t your prototypically attractive prospects, but instead of getting one prospect back, the Royals got several that could complement a full team rebuild.

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Old 06-18-2018, 06:24 PM   #1698
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To me this feels like the Greinke trade. The Royals got assets that aren’t your prototypically attractive prospects, but instead of getting one prospect back, the Royals got several that could assist with a full team rebuild.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Cain, Escobar, and Jeffries (spelling?) being more highly regarded than these guys.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:25 PM   #1699
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The problem is, almost nothing in recent memory would suggest that the "scouts" deserve to be trusted. Oh well, I'm just a guy behind a computer screen. I hope they prove me wrong.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:27 PM   #1700
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I’m not sure they got an everyday player. Rutherford is a good defender and has plus speed, plus is a switch hitter.

Gutierrez is the biggest upside piece, 3Bwith good contact skills and some raw power.

I like trading with the Nats because they have a great, deep system and develop players well...

But would trade Kieboom for all 3 of those guys. Guessing that either wasn’t on the table or the Royals didn’t want all eggs in one basket.

Also: if that’s the return Herrera fetches, Moustakas will be so disappointing I don’t know it’s even worth making a deal.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:29 PM   #1701
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To me this feels like the Greinke trade. The Royals got assets that aren’t your prototypically attractive prospects, but instead of getting one prospect back, the Royals got several that could assist with a full team rebuild.

It definitely feels like that.

Escobar was two years removed from being a top 50 prospect whose shine was off. Cain was seen as an old org/4th OF type. Jeffress was a reliever with a big arm.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:30 PM   #1702
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Perkins screams perfect outfielder for Kauffman Stadium.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:33 PM   #1703
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Gutierrez has 12 home runs in his entire minor league career (almost 5 years). Not really the power you want from 3B...
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:38 PM   #1704
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I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Cain, Escobar, and Jeffries (spelling?) being more highly regarded than these guys.
They were, but Greinke was 2 years of a starting pitcher compared to three months of a reliever with Herrera.

The thing with Zack was that people expected "more". We didn't get a "can't miss" ace or a power-hitter, but pieces that all had concerns that prevented them from being top prospects.

Esky, while considered a defensive maestro (a welcome plus after a Yuni world), had concerns that his bat would never develop.

Cain was relatively old for a prospect, and while he was highly regarded by scouts for his tools, those tools hadn't translated to the field and many were concerned that he was too fragile for a full season.

Jeffress was a reliever that was one suspension from being banned from the MLB for life.

And Odo was very young, many issues could have happened in his development, and at the time he didn't have an out pitch.

These prospects were definitely more valuable than what we got back today, but many (analysts included) thought the Royals could have got back "more" for an ace like Greinke. We now know that the scouts found players who were pitch perfect for Kauffman (Fantastic speed, incredible defense, and contact hitters whose hits would more often fall with the K's spacious dimensions). This trade seems in line with what Moore looks for - and considering Soler's recent emergence (injury notwithstanding), I'll be at least hopeful that they can emerge in our system.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:41 PM   #1705
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Man...These all seem like guys that may make the majors but may only be backup/utility type of dudes.

Once again shit like this is why ****ing up the draft will kill you, rebuilding your farm system with trades is essentially impossible now.

It's not a great trade it's marginal but it's what you can get when no one will move on high level prospects anymore...so this is what you get. A shitty team with a high payroll with a bunch of guys no one will give anything of value for.

Dayton Moore has really screwed the pooch with this farm system over the last 5 years.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:43 PM   #1706
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Hopefully they can package Moose and Whit...gotta trade both
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:46 PM   #1707
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@jorgecastillo: From someone who's seen Yohanse Morel: Pretty good arm. Has touched 95 with a good slider. He's 17 and has appeared in one game in the Dominican Summer League. Years away.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:46 PM   #1708
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Hopefully they can package Moose and Whit...gotta trade both
Merrifield has years of control but unless he goes to a team that values his versatility is his value really that high?
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:47 PM   #1709
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Again, I hope Moore has the balls to trade someone like Merrifield. As some have mentioned, we may be even worse off than when Moore took over. We don't have any Butlers, Gordons, Greinkes, etc. in our system. Teams like Detroit and Chicago have been able to trade off valuable pieces like Verlander, Eaton, Sale, etc. for good hauls in recent years. We simply don't have much of value to trade, and I doubt Moore has the cajones to deal with the fan backlash from trading a Perez or Merrifield.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:49 PM   #1710
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Man...These all seem like guys that may make the majors but may only be backup/utility type of dudes.

Once again shit like this is why ****ing up the draft will kill you, rebuilding your farm system with trades is essentially impossible now.

It's not a great trade it's marginal but it's what you can get when no one will move on high level prospects anymore...so this is what you get. A shitty team with a high payroll with a bunch of guys no one will give anything of value for.

Dayton Moore has really screwed the pooch with this farm system over the last 5 years.
2 WS Appearances and WS Title is hardly screwing the pooch.
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