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PastorMikH · 01-08-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by RedNeckRaider
I wear jeans, t-shirt, flanel shirt, I wear roper type work boots or cowboy boots, and I always tip at least 15%. I will tell you another thing you act like you are to good for me cause you don't like the way dress, you will not get a penny, and you might get your *** kicked.

Hey Redneck, didn't you mean to say "Rope" belt?

This statement really throws me though. The second part is so typical of a Riaderfan, but the real-person attire instead of a drag gettup really is offbeat for a

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BTW, he'd probably completely lose it if you were to ask them to put some Dwight Yokum tunes on the musac speakers.

memyselfI · 01-08-2003, 09:44 AM

'Waitering is an easy job.'

I beg to differ.

ANY job is an 'easy' job if you just do it. If you want to do it RIGHT that is when it becomes tricky...

I'm sure I could pray some and talk about God some and make being a Pastor look like an 'easy' job. That does not mean I'd be any good at it and certainly it doesn't mean the people I service would gain any real benefit from it.

I think server (the new name for the profession) is actually a very tricky and difficult job. You are serving people food. The nature of feeding people has all sorts of cultural, class, socio-economic, and psychological dynamics as does the serving of people.

You have people who want to just eat and the only thing between them and the food is you. These people are the ones who get hostile about having to tip, having to wait for you to serve them, having to deal with you at all.

You have people who WANT to be served. They want their presence acknowledged, they want their every needs attended, and these are the people who tend to value good service because they expect it and reward it.

Then you have the folks in between who think that servers are a necessary evil. As such they will use it to their benefit and if they feel the server meets some ingrained psychological criteria they have passed a test and will be fairly rewarded (anywhere from 10-18%) but it doesn't matter so much what the server does as it does what this customer is thinking and what type of mood they are in.

Given these sorts of dynamics...how can one say its an 'easy' job. I did it for ONE day and said 'no, thanks.' But I have many friends who've made little or lots of money doing this.

Some try to make a living doing it...they are truly professionals who would scoff at the idea that their ability to make a life out of serving at fine restraurants is akin and easy as working at Denny's.

**Bwana** · 01-08-2003, 09:48 AM

Mailboxes Etc......THEY SUCK!!!!!!!

PastorMikH · 01-08-2003, 09:48 AM

Finally made it to the top of the list. One last one here until someone ese posts.

Keg, when you leave those 9 pennies, put them in the bottom of a glass filled with water. Then, take a napkin, put it over the top of the glass and flip the glass upside down. The napkin will hold in the water long enough to flip it. Of course, I would never do that personally (At least not where I was known as a minister - Applebees west Lawrence, maybee)

PastorMikH · 01-08-2003, 09:54 AM

Denise, was comparing it in the way of hard physical labor that the kid would experience on a construction job site.

It can have it's moments to be sure. And I know a lady's feet can kill her after an 8 hour shift.

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Scratch the rest of that, I got a bit reactionary there.

01-08-2003, 09:57 AM

Walked into a Conoco Gas station once for a 12 pack of beer.....15minutes later....walked out with 2 chicks at the same time.

now that is customer service.

headsnap · 01-08-2003, 10:15 AM

IOMEGA CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!

KCChiefsMan · 01-08-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by pHoBiA
Whoops - I do sometimes meet your criteria. I'm a concrete cowboy. When the rodeo comes to town (and a select few other times of the year), I'll throw on my ostrich boots and beaver felt hat and take the wife out to eat. If you screwed me just 'cuz I'm wearing a hat, you blew it. I'm one of the best tippers I know.

Also, my old man doesn't fit any of your criteria and he's the worst tipper. Every time I eat with him, I augment the tip after he's left the table.

sorry then, but I have never gotten a good tip from a cowboy, usually they stiff me and I'm not talking about the times I give them bad service. You may be an exceptional case, but from my experience cowboy's never leave anybody a good tip, ever. and everybody I work with agree's with me

KCChiefsMan · 01-08-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by RedNeckRaider
No, cause I have no idea where you work. Most around here know me ,and I don't talk trash, and blow pricks like you off. This is unreal, I got pissed at a guy on a pute who does a chicks job

a chicks job eh? truthfully, I'd rather work with good looking chicks than dudes, hehe believe that!

01-08-2003, 03:02 PM

You're not listening to me Paul.

My entire point is that you are screwing yourself. There are many, many exceptions to your prejudice (not just me). The difference between crappy service and adequate service is minimal - you make a little more effort and you would do much better.

01-08-2003, 03:06 PM

KCChiefs...

maybe you're a dick to cowboys. I rode bulls for 2 years and went to ALOT of rodeos all over Iowa, Missouri and some in nebraska.....while some guys are pretty cheap...Most are loyal, friendly, considerate people....and tip according to the level of service.......ps...they know when you're looking down your snotty suburban nose. Alot of "ranchers" wear their lids, have money are tip very well from what i've seen.

Maybe its just your charming personality.

Disclaimer: Doesn't include Trailer park people driving el caminos and wearing State fair cowboy hats and walmart Garth Brooks Fire shirts.

KCChiefsMan · 01-08-2003, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHoBiA
You're not listening to me Paul.

My entire point is that you are screwing yourself. There are many, many exceptions to your prejudice (not just me). The difference between crappy service and adequate service is minimal - you make a little more effort and you would do much better.

I put a lot of effort into my job Phil, I put a lot of pride into my job. My only prejudice is against people who screw me over. I do fine at my job, very well actually, but my only point was, give somebody good service = $1 tip on a $40 bill, OR have fun with people who I KNOW won't tip me and get nothing and feel better about it, because it really really makes me mad when I get stiffed after giving people good service. But that doesn't happen often because I don't intentionally give people crappy service very often. I probably haven't done that in about a month.

KCChiefsMan · 01-08-2003, 03:09 PM

just for everybody's info, I only do that shit to people who screw me over. Why the hell should I care about people that stiff me? anybody that has served tables, and can do their job well, will know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Mass-Chief-Fan · 01-08-2003, 03:11 PM

This afternoon I go into Ocean State Job Lot (discount store). I get tarps & some tools there cheap. I go to pay & ask if they take company checks. The girl behind the counter says no.

I remembered that I had paid w/ company check before so I ask when this policy started. She says that if it's a company check she'll need to see a license & get approval so its easier to pay cash. I had enough cash to pay the bill ($70), but I gave her the best fuck you smile I had & said call for approval. She gave me the are you serious face & goes about ringing me out w/ the most attitude I've ever seen. I let it go because I figured she was stuck at that dump for the rest of the day.

01-08-2003, 09:44 AM	#3
memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? memyselfI's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous	'Waitering is an easy job.' I beg to differ. ANY job is an 'easy' job if you just do it. If you want to do it RIGHT that is when it becomes tricky... I'm sure I could pray some and talk about God some and make being a Pastor look like an 'easy' job. That does not mean I'd be any good at it and certainly it doesn't mean the people I service would gain any real benefit from it. I think server (the new name for the profession) is actually a very tricky and difficult job. You are serving people food. The nature of feeding people has all sorts of cultural, class, socio-economic, and psychological dynamics as does the serving of people. You have people who want to just eat and the only thing between them and the food is you. These people are the ones who get hostile about having to tip, having to wait for you to serve them, having to deal with you at all. You have people who WANT to be served. They want their presence acknowledged, they want their every needs attended, and these are the people who tend to value good service because they expect it and reward it. Then you have the folks in between who think that servers are a necessary evil. As such they will use it to their benefit and if they feel the server meets some ingrained psychological criteria they have passed a test and will be fairly rewarded (anywhere from 10-18%) but it doesn't matter so much what the server does as it does what this customer is thinking and what type of mood they are in. Given these sorts of dynamics...how can one say its an 'easy' job. I did it for ONE day and said 'no, thanks.' But I have many friends who've made little or lots of money doing this. Some try to make a living doing it...they are truly professionals who would scoff at the idea that their ability to make a life out of serving at fine restraurants is akin and easy as working at Denny's. Last edited by memyselfI; 01-08-2003 at 09:51 AM..
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01-08-2003, 09:48 AM	#4
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01-08-2003, 09:48 AM	#5
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? PastorMikH's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks	Finally made it to the top of the list. One last one here until someone ese posts. Keg, when you leave those 9 pennies, put them in the bottom of a glass filled with water. Then, take a napkin, put it over the top of the glass and flip the glass upside down. The napkin will hold in the water long enough to flip it. Of course, I would never do that personally (At least not where I was known as a minister - Applebees west Lawrence, maybee)
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01-08-2003, 09:54 AM	#6
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? PastorMikH's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks	Denise, was comparing it in the way of hard physical labor that the kid would experience on a construction job site. It can have it's moments to be sure. And I know a lady's feet can kill her after an 8 hour shift. ------------------------------------- Scratch the rest of that, I got a bit reactionary there. Last edited by PastorMikH; 01-08-2003 at 10:03 AM..
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01-08-2003, 09:57 AM	#7
Iowanian Guest	Walked into a Conoco Gas station once for a 12 pack of beer.....15minutes later....walked out with 2 chicks at the same time. now that is customer service.
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01-08-2003, 10:15 AM	#8
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01-08-2003, 03:02 PM	#11
Phobia Guest	You're not listening to me Paul. My entire point is that you are screwing yourself. There are many, many exceptions to your prejudice (not just me). The difference between crappy service and adequate service is minimal - you make a little more effort and you would do much better.
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01-08-2003, 03:06 PM	#12
Iowanian Guest	KCChiefs... maybe you're a dick to cowboys. I rode bulls for 2 years and went to ALOT of rodeos all over Iowa, Missouri and some in nebraska.....while some guys are pretty cheap...Most are loyal, friendly, considerate people....and tip according to the level of service.......ps...they know when you're looking down your snotty suburban nose. Alot of "ranchers" wear their lids, have money are tip very well from what i've seen. Maybe its just your charming personality. Disclaimer: Doesn't include Trailer park people driving el caminos and wearing State fair cowboy hats and walmart Garth Brooks Fire shirts.
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01-08-2003, 03:09 PM	#14
KCChiefsMan AIC KCChiefsMan's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Roxbury, MA	just for everybody's info, I only do that shit to people who screw me over. Why the hell should I care about people that stiff me? anybody that has served tables, and can do their job well, will know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
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01-08-2003, 03:11 PM	#15
Mass-Chief-Fan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001	This afternoon I go into Ocean State Job Lot (discount store). I get tarps & some tools there cheap. I go to pay & ask if they take company checks. The girl behind the counter says no. I remembered that I had paid w/ company check before so I ask when this policy started. She says that if it's a company check she'll need to see a license & get approval so its easier to pay cash. I had enough cash to pay the bill ($70), but I gave her the best fuck you smile I had & said call for approval. She gave me the are you serious face & goes about ringing me out w/ the most attitude I've ever seen. I let it go because I figured she was stuck at that dump for the rest of the day.
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