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Old 04-06-2018, 09:18 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
The season is upon us, even if spring is not.

2018 MLB Draft Picks
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#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.

Current Prospects to Watch:

OF Seuly Matias - Huge tools. Hit 2 HR in Lexington (A) season opener.

1B Nick Pratto - Top pick in 17 has advanced approach and good glove; needs to start tapping into power in first full year in minors. Also at Lexington.

OF Michael Gigliotti - Good defender in CF, good OBP skills, plus baserunner. Next mainstay in CF for KC, IMO. Advanced college bat also starting at Lexington.

OF Khalil Lee - Probably has highest upside in Royals' system. Could hit 30 HR in majors, could steal 30 bases. Plus defensive ability in RF. Nice test at Wilmington this year.

3B Emmanuel Rivera - Really nice approach and good contact skills. Power is still developing. Also getting a good test at Wilmington.

SP Foster Griffin - Made nice strides in 2017. Needs to continue to progress in 2018. Could be a lefty version of Jakob Junis (good breaking ball that he can really manipulate, OK fastball, good command).

1B Samir Duenez - Duenez still is intriguing, hoping for a step forward in his power production this year at Northwest Arkansas, which would turn him into a legit prospect.

Others to keep an eye on:
SP Gerson Garabito (Wilmington), OF Marten Gasparini (Lexington), C MJ Melendez (Lexington), RP Tyler Zuber (lexington), RP Richard Lovelady (Omaha), SP Dan Tillo (Lexington), SS Nicky Lopez (NWA), SP Scott Blewett (NWA), OF Brewer Hicklen (Idaho Falls),

In general, Lexington and Wilmington are the most interesting spots to watch. Nice depth and a lot of interesting pieces at both.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:50 PM   #1711
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Again, I hope Moore has the balls to trade someone like Merrifield. As some have mentioned, we may be even worse off than when Moore took over. We don't have any Butlers, Gordons, Greinkes, etc. in our system. Teams like Detroit and Chicago have been able to trade off valuable pieces like Verlander, Eaton, Sale, etc. for good hauls in recent years. We simply don't have much of value to trade, and I doubt Moore has the cajones to deal with the fan backlash from trading a Perez or Merrifield.
He drafted like total shit and has barely anyone left with value due to them either sucking or costing to much...

They also seem concerned about pissing people off so I don't really see them moving Perez even though there is an argument that a catcher his age with that many knee surgeries isn't for long at that position and if he becomes 1B his value declines quite a bit.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:51 PM   #1712
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2 WS Appearances and WS Title is hardly screwing the pooch.
I said with the farm system, which frankly he did, this farm system has produced jack squat in years. Even the dudes he traded aren't good.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:52 PM   #1713
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He drafted like total shit and has barely anyone left with value due to them either sucking or costing to much...

They also seem concerned about pissing people off so I don't really see them moving Perez even though there is an argument that a catcher his age with that many knee surgeries isn't for long at that position and if he becomes 1B his value declines quite a bit.
Agreed on all counts. Honestly, I don't care about all this family and togetherness. There's no point in keeping players for nostalgia or the fans and their emotional connection. It's also selfish to force players to stick around on 100 loss teams for 3-4 years. Moore already waited too long to start the rebuild, and I feel like he's just going to continue to spin the wheels and go nowhere.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:52 PM   #1714
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2 WS Appearances and WS Title is hardly screwing the pooch.
That’s kind of where I’m at. Yeah, our farm system sucks right now and so does our team. But man I’m still so proud of what they accomplished during that run. It’s hard for me to be TOO mad. Lol
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:53 PM   #1715
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I hope the suck ass trade everybody for draft pick and prospect crowd is happy. Because you really don't need to do that in baseball unlike football and basketball, where you need the top pick.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:53 PM   #1716
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I said with the farm system, which frankly he did, this farm system has produced jack squat in years. Even the dudes he traded aren't good.
Also a good point.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:54 PM   #1717
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Merrifield has years of control but unless he goes to a team that values his versatility is his value really that high?
Have to hope for that. Whit needs to hit some hr's to help that value too. He has good sb ability too.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:54 PM   #1718
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I hope the suck ass trade everybody for draft pick and prospect crowd is happy. Because you really don't need to do that in baseball unlike football and basketball, where you need the top pick.
Houston would like to disagree with you, the Cubs also...or the way the White Sox are rebuilding, tanking is the new way of baseball rebuilds.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:54 PM   #1719
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They haven't done a great job with the draft, but part of that is the league neutered them by forcing everyone to go into the slotting system. Probably hurt the Royals as much as anyone else. Not that they've drafted as well as they could anyway... but going over slot helped them build an all-time farm system.

Of course, we also could be sitting here today with a rotation of Ventura, Duffy, Manaea and Junis and people would probably feel a lot better about the future of this team. It didn't work out that way.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:55 PM   #1720
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They were, but Greinke was 2 years of a starting pitcher compared to three months of a reliever with Herrera.

The thing with Zack was that people expected "more". We didn't get a "can't miss" ace or a power-hitter, but pieces that all had concerns that prevented them from being top prospects.

Esky, while considered a defensive maestro (a welcome plus after a Yuni world), had concerns that his bat would never develop.

Cain was relatively old for a prospect, and while he was highly regarded by scouts for his tools, those tools hadn't translated to the field and many were concerned that he was too fragile for a full season.

Jeffress was a reliever that was one suspension from being banned from the MLB for life.

And Odo was very young, many issues could have happened in his development, and at the time he didn't have an out pitch.

These prospects were definitely more valuable than what we got back today, but many (analysts included) thought the Royals could have got back "more" for an ace like Greinke. We now know that the scouts found players who were pitch perfect for Kauffman (Fantastic speed, incredible defense, and contact hitters whose hits would more often fall with the K's spacious dimensions). This trade seems in line with what Moore looks for - and considering Soler's recent emergence (injury notwithstanding), I'll be at least hopeful that they can emerge in our system.
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Houston would like to disagree with you, the Cubs also...or the way the White Sox are rebuilding, tanking is the new way of baseball rebuilds.
Nationals, Yankees, and Cardinals say hi as well. They never tanked.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:56 PM   #1722
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I hope the suck ass trade everybody for draft pick and prospect crowd is happy. Because you really don't need to do that in baseball unlike football and basketball, where you need the top pick.
You don't have to tank if you draft decently during your run and don't completely empty your cupboards. Moore has been lost without top 5 picks (Moose, Hosmer) and without having the ability to spend way over slot on guys before the rule changed. Chicago and Houston won the World Series and are still in contention for several years after their championship. I'm so happy that we won the World Series, but it's a shame that the window was so short. I'm not so sure Moore is the one to bring us out of the mess again.
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They haven't done a great job with the draft, but part of that is the league neutered them by forcing everyone to go into the slotting system. Probably hurt the Royals as much as anyone else. Not that they've drafted as well as they could anyway... but going over slot helped them build an all-time farm system.

Of course, we also could be sitting here today with a rotation of Ventura, Duffy, Manaea and Junis and people would probably feel a lot better about the future of this team. It didn't work out that way.
They started ****ing up before that...it started with Christian Colon and continued into Crow and Starling etc etc.
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Nationals, Yankees, and Cardinals say hi as well. They never tanked.
How small market teams have to operate is radically different than the teams you've mentioned.
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Nationals, Yankees, and Cardinals say hi as well. They never tanked.
The Nationals and Cardinals understand how to build a farm system there's a reason they always have high rated guys...the Royals don't have this down at all.

I however don't think I'd ever use the Yankees as an example for the Royals to follow.
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