***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I can pull plenty of other source that say the opposite. Healthy food is cheap, but it isn't convenient

Then post it.

You already posted that Type I Diabetes is 100 percent genetic, which isn't quite the case. It's an uncommon condition that has certain heritable aspects, but the ultimate trigger is likely a viral infection causing an autoimmune reaction

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

but IMO at least , you can lessen that hit in other places by shutting them down.


the incubation period is ****ing us in this instance. terribly bad. by the time the numbers are spiking it's spread so far it's almost impossible to get it reigned in.


if you wait to shut down you're probably ****ed

I've said it from the start, its been here since January. Mid January spreading just not seen.

How many people thought they had the flu and just ignored it.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

She has been arrested, and charged with attempt murder correct?

nope. they couldnt prove it. hell the nursing provider didnt even want to fire her over it.

they finally did though

she finally got so bad she took extra (more than the daily amount so the meds came up short) and thats how mom caught her. at that point it was too late though.

[Demonpenz]

what we we will lack in economic stability will be made up in by pure numbers of people dead!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

but IMO at least , you can lessen that hit in other places by shutting them down.


the incubation period is ****ing us in this instance. terribly bad. by the time the numbers are spiking it's spread so far it's almost impossible to get it reigned in.


if you wait to shut down you're probably ****ed

But more evidence is emerging that this isn't really the case.

Again 3-5 day incubation period instead of 9-13 as previously believed. Significantly reduced rates of incidental asymptomatic transfer (most asymptomatic transfer appearing to come from sustained, intimate contact - that's why family transmission rates are so high).

The odds of you getting it because you walked near someone in a store, restaurant or office who was asymptomatic are almost infinitesimally small. It's largely close-quarter spread through sustained contact.

For the love of god, they have GOT to shut down public transportation anywhere it's still running. I'm hard pressed to fabricate a place more likely to yield the conditions that can lead to large-scale asymptomatic transmission.

[BleedingRed]

India bans export of hydroxychloroquine https://t.co/e36Rk6fOol pic.twitter.com/AgHiaADQKS

— New Europe (@New_Europe) March 25, 2020

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

My memory is you live in a fairly small town, no? Not 1,000 by any means, but not 100,000 either.

I know there's increased discussion of opioid abuses in rural America but unless you spend time with people who live in a real small, insulated community, you don't realize just how pervasive drug abuse has become.

The little town where my buddy's farm is, where we used to go out and hang out with the locals and drink/fish/shoot in HS, I won't go into as an adult outside of heading into the local cafe or sale barn. It bubbles right under the surface but people are committing violent felonies for their fix. It's ****ing awful.

Sounds like some of that is at play here with your stealin' nurse. Sorry to hear about it. Such an odd thing for someone to become a pediatric nurse and then actively seek to hurt a child.

yeah small town. 2700 in town . 30 k in county IIRC.

meth and opioids have taken over (hell a car is stolen every day lately) but MOST people know me and leave me and my stuff alone (nothing comes up missing around here even after they hit every other shop in town for shit last week , knock on wood) but this bitch was from out of town and didnt know.

her family and friends all know me at this point, her and some POS guy got some cash too when we were in the hosptial and they skipped out with it. she stole my phone too and I left it on for months hoping they would leave it on long enough for me to get to them.

i almost lost my mind over this shit.

[wazu]

Weird to think that in these studies for Hydroxychlorquine, there's going to be a bunch of people given a placebo for scientific purposes.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

oh man...you dont even know how ****ed up it was.


she couldnt just steal the narcotics for some reason, she didnt give her her other meds throughout the ordeal either...

i mean the seizure meds are bad enough and could kill her but no antibiotics made her go septic in a matter of days and then get endocarditis for the 2nd time. 6 weeks in ICU on a vent. 8 weeks getting iv antibiotics at home by mom got it mostly taken care of.

WOW, that's ****ed up man. Glad she's doing better. I hope the POS nurse is behind bars.

[BleedingRed]

In Florida Rio Giardinieri was suffering from coronavirus & thought he was going to die.
Then he heard about hydroxychloroquine, a prescription medication President Trump said may be a possible treatment by a doctor
It "saved my life," he says
pic.twitter.com/F2j0RSibeg

— A C Kittel (@ackittel) March 25, 2020

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by stumppy

WOW, that's ****ed up man. Glad she's doing better. I hope the POS nurse is behind bars.

Nevermind, seen your other posts.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

NY Governor Cuomo sounds a lot more positive today than he did yesterday for what it's worth...

[Hammock Parties]

My company has only lost one customer in the midst of this crisis.

I'm actually quite shocked.

[dirk digler]

NY has 192 deaths now total

[Mecca]

Well here is Gabe Brown a mayor in Kentucky..

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...dkq-story.html

Listen up dipshits and sensible people. I might not have the best bedside manor. I might not put you at ease like the Governor does, but I don’t care. You need to realize that this is a serious ordeal. In fact, it’s a big f**cking deal. Stay at home.

I didn’t give you information to induce panic. I gave you information, so that you’d be informed.

Maybe, just maybe, I am privy to information that you aren’t. I’m sorry for being the gossiping Mayor.
I’m tired of Covid-19 conference calls. I take 3 a day, plus one extra on the weekend with Kenton County. If you don’t like what I’m telling you, then go buy some toilet paper.

I pray every night that the State, County and region that I love with all of my heart will stop doing nonsensical things. Treat this seriously. If you don’t, then screw you (fuck you is what I want to say, but I can’t).

This will pass. Take it seriously. It is here. Act like you have the virus and don’t spread it to other people. I have no doubt that it hasn’t already been here, but testing had been limited. More cases are coming. If you ignore this problem, the worst thing that could happen is that your mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, aunts, uncles could die.

Be responsible. If you don’t, then screw you.

Warmest regards,

Mayor Gabe Brown