***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[bricks]

Originally Posted by petegz28

They are absolutely off the ****ing charts compared to everyone other country.

I think part of the reason for that is because Italy has one of the most eldered populations in the world.

This virus tends to feast off eldered people with weakened or impaired immune systems and/or people that suffer from several comorbidities.

But in no way do I believe Italy has more deaths than China. It wouldn't surprise me if Chinas death toll is in the millions.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Best guess using the math for deaths this week:

Tuesday: 216
Wednesday: 341
Thursday: 581
Friday: 719
Saturday: 907
Sunday: 1,110

Not trying to win a bet or anything with this — would like to see if this is tracking higher or lower than the overall averages and if we’re seeing a higher or lower death rate based on the data to date. Hopefully, it’s much lower.

We ended up at 222 deaths today.

Applying the slight revision upward I'd guess somewhere between 341 and 350 tomorrow.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

We don't have enough data to call anything an anomaly. So far you have called both New York and Italy anomalies.

Because compared to their respective contexts, they are.

NY is over 50% of our total cases. 1 state out of 50. That's a ****ing anomaly. Both actually can be explained as to why they are but it doesn't change the fact that they most certainly appear to be.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Because compared to their respective contexts, they are.

NY is over 50% of our total cases. 1 state out of 50. That's a ****ing anomaly. Both actually can be explained as to why they are but it doesn't change the fact that they most certainly appear to be.

I don't agree with you at all. They may end up being anomalies, but we don't have nearly enough information to make that assumption

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by bricks

I think part of the reason for that is because Italy has one of the most eldered populations in the world.

This virus tends to feast off eldered people with weakened or impaired immune systems and/or people that suffer from several comorbidities.

But in no way do I believe Italy has more deaths than China. It wouldn't surprise me if Chinas death toll is in the millions.

There are several reasons for Italy:

Age
Several of the dead were at risk
Several of the dead were going to die in the next few months regardless

And I agree, China's numbers are suspect.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I don't agree with you at all. They may end up being anomalies, but we don't have nearly enough information to make that assumption

Well then let's just say they are looking to be if they aren't.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Because compared to their respective contexts, they are.

NY is over 50% of our total cases. 1 state out of 50. That's a ****ing anomaly. Both actually can be explained as to why they are but it doesn't change the fact that they most certainly appear to be.

How many times did you see people wash their hands on Seinfeld?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There are several reasons for Italy:

Age
Several of the dead were at risk
Several of the dead were going to die in the next few months regardless

And I agree, China's numbers are suspect.

Do you think China might be an anomaly as well?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

MyPillow is excited to announce that we are now manufacturing face masks for hospitals across the country! pic.twitter.com/KcW4L7i9WC

— MyPillow (@MyPillowUSA) March 24, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Do you think China might be an anomaly as well?

Who the **** knows with China. If you take their numbers at face value then the answer is no.

[eDave]

That guy's such a dick. He's making money here somehow. Total asshole prick.

I shredded up an old foam matress the other day. Shoved the shavings into a pillowcase and look at that, I got my own homemade myPillow.

**** that guy. Total asshole prick.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by eDave

Yea, no shit. And then applied to modern culture by insecure losers as some sort of slur towards those who are not insecure and therefore don't give a shit.

That doesn't sound like a link.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by stevieray

That doesn't sound like a link.

Stop following me around, Horshack

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

A kid who licked toilets as part of the #CoronaVirusChallenge says he's now in the hospital with coronavirus. @gayshawnmendes was also just suspended from twitter pic.twitter.com/lfG2NBlTrs

— Pardes Seleh (@PardesSeleh) March 23, 2020

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by eDave

Stop following me around, Horshack

Impossible...too busy.

Was hoping you'd shed some light on the matter.