***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

as it stand right now you are not going to avoid getting it so why shut anything down other than to delay it? Old people stay home young go work

[TLO]

Originally Posted by tk13

West Virginia made news because they were the last state with a case and having the fewest cases, but they are barely testing. They've still done less than 400 tests, total.

I wishMissouri would tell us how many tests they've done.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Coronavirus in the New York City Police Department, per @NYPDShea:

-98 confirmed cases: 70 uniform officers, 28 civilian employees
-3 currently hospitalized
-1 discharged today
-Officers calling out sick at nearly twice the normal rate since about March 17

— Ashley Southall (@AshleyAtTimes) March 22, 2020

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

oaklandhater has a new website up. https://www.covidactnow.org/

In all seriousness, it's pretty bleak when even the state with the fewest cases (WV) shows 3-month quarantine NOW.

Its hard to accept the large gap between social distancing and shelter in place on those graphs. I'm fine being sheltered in place(?), but doesn't feel like much has changed here as far as movement and the number of things considered essential kind of sends mixed signals.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

as it stand right now you are not going to avoid getting it so why shut anything down other than to delay it? Old people stay home young go work

They’re seeing a pretty even split between under 50 and 50 and over in NYC requiring hospitalization and life support.

This is all about not having so many people getting seriously sick at the same time and being forced to let some percentage of those effected die.

I’m not even sure if this more deadly than normal flu based on the high likelihood that many of us have it or had it and don’t know. But that’s not the reason for the shutdown. It’s all about being able to have health care function and not get overrun and people dying because of it.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Its hard to accept the large gap between social distancing and shelter in place on those graphs. I'm fine being sheltered in place(?), but doesn't feel like much has changed here as far as movement and the number of things considered essential kind of sends mixed signals.

Cases double at different rates (2-4 days) from the moment you shelter in place.

It takes weeks for the results to take hold.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Cases double at different rates (2-4 days) from the moment you shelter in place.

It takes weeks for the results to take hold.

Right, but shelter in place seems to vary by the place.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

as it stand right now you are not going to avoid getting it

That's a ridiculous thing to say.

[Discuss Thrower]

A 64-year-old man leaped to his death from a luxury apartment building in Manhattan, police said Saturday.

The unidentified man jumped from a 16th-floor window of the Tribeca Park apartment building on Chambers Street near North End Avenue, where he lived, at about 11 p.m. Friday, authorities said.

He landed in the building’s courtyard and was pronounced dead at the scene.

Source

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by tk13

West Virginia made news because they were the last state with a case and having the fewest cases, but they are barely testing. They've still done less than 400 tests, total.

Coal miners are so used to respiratory issues that they probably haven't even noticed.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Source

Sounds like the market is about to tank.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Coronavirus in the New York City Police Department, per @NYPDShea:

-98 confirmed cases: 70 uniform officers, 28 civilian employees
-3 currently hospitalized
-1 discharged today
-Officers calling out sick at nearly twice the normal rate since about March 17

— Ashley Southall (@AshleyAtTimes) March 22, 2020

Ok so based on these figures... a 3% hospitalization rate for those we KNOW about in NYPD and you have to imagine there is a significant number of current unknowns and people who have had it and cleared it.

The other problem with this data (besides being a tiny sample) is that I doubt there are many elderly NYPD employees, so this will skew youngish (not necessarily healthy though, I've seen tons of fat diabetic cops).

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Sounds like the market is about to tank.

"A 64-year-old man left a grim suicide note before leaping to his death from his luxury apartment building in Manhattan, The Post has learned.

“How do you enjoy life?” the man’s note read, police sources said."

[oaklandhater]

Oscar-winning movie producer Harvey Weinstein has tested positive for #COVID19 virus at an upstate New York prison, CNHI has learned. Exclusive report coming from @TipMahoney #MeToo

— Joe Mahoney (@TipMahoney) March 22, 2020

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

as it stand right now you are not going to avoid getting it so why shut anything down other than to delay it? Old people stay home young go work

I feel that it is inevitable that I get it and having COPD it could kill me, but if you only get it once and never again I'm like bring it on and if I live I live and if I die then ~ Well Bye