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Old 08-23-2019, 04:38 PM  
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:18 PM   #361
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Colts traded CB Nate Hairston to the Jets for a conditional 2020 6th rd pick.

Jets have 2 6th rounders next year, one from the Chiefs in the Darron Lee trade. Colts will get the lower of those 2 picks. Physical still pending.
Ran a 4.52 as a prospect.......... probably no better than our 5-6-7 right now
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:56 PM   #362
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Like I said - there's a clear path to this being a HR trade for Veach. Yes, if Clark gives us 14 sacks, steady pressures and good run defense and is critical in a run to the Super Bowl, it's hard to say I'd rather have Flowers and the pick because even if that's better long-term, the SB appearance would wash away any sins.
I'm sort of playing the hindsight game, because I know in retrospect both Greedy and Murphy were available at 29, but I think Flowers and Murphy together increases the chance of a SB appearance more than Clark on his own.

Maybe the Chiefs would have taken Thornhill in the 1st if they had the pick still, and then picked some garbage long term DE project in the 2nd with the Thornhill pick, in which case I guess I'll take Clark.
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:27 PM   #363
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I'm sort of playing the hindsight game, because I know in retrospect both Greedy and Murphy were available at 29, but I think Flowers and Murphy together increases the chance of a SB appearance more than Clark on his own.

Maybe the Chiefs would have taken Thornhill in the 1st if they had the pick still, and then picked some garbage long term DE project in the 2nd with the Thornhill pick, in which case I guess I'll take Clark.
The unknown here is what did Andy/Spags say they needed. It may well be that as far as roster talent you are correct.
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:28 PM   #364
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I wasn't a huge fan of the Clark trade, but in hindsight I don't trust Veach so far to draft well so I guess a veteran trade isn't so bad.
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:30 PM   #365
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I wasn't a huge fan of the Clark trade, but in hindsight I don't trust Veach so far to draft well so I guess a veteran trade isn't so bad.
This last draft was aces what are you talking about
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:32 PM   #366
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I wasn't a huge fan of the Clark trade, but in hindsight I don't trust Veach so far to draft well so I guess a veteran trade isn't so bad.
Kcchiefsus seal of approval folks. Trade officially ace.
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:41 PM   #367
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This last draft was aces what are you talking about
The trading up for Speaks...
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:49 PM   #368
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This draft looks pretty good when you look at what the picks brought.

Frank Clark
Mecole Hardman
Juan Thornhill
Khalen Saunders
Rashad Fenton
Darwin Thompson
Nick Allegreti

That’s a haul
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:20 PM   #369
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This draft looks pretty good when you look at what the picks brought.

Frank Clark
Mecole Hardman
Juan Thornhill
Khalen Saunders
Rashad Fenton
Darwin Thompson
Nick Allegreti

That’s a haul
I’m confident that we have 4 almost immediate key contributors from that group: Clark (obviously), Hardman, Thornhill, Thompson

I think we probably have 2 guys that can be decent back-ups and potentially solid future starters: Saunders, Allegretti

That really just leaves Fenton as the question mark. I guess if he can be a good special teams player, then that makes him worth the pick.
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The trading up for Speaks...
Yeah I'm not referring to the first draft which is notoriously dogshit for all GMs including Dorsey. I hated that draft as much as I loved the latest one.
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:31 PM   #371
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I actually have an idea about a potential trade that would make some sense, I think, not my normal "throw out outrageous shit" type stuff.

But if the Dolphins are having a fire sale and everyone is for trade, would you see if they'd take a 4th for Gesicki?

I mean, he could come in and learn behind Kelce
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:43 PM   #372
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Yeah I'm not referring to the first draft which is notoriously dogshit for all GMs including Dorsey. I hated that draft as much as I loved the latest one.
Dorsey's first draft was at worst decent. He made the right pick in Fisher, did not have a 2nd round pick and then hit a homerun with Kelce.

The problem with this fanbase is they think every 1st and 2nd round pick should become a grear player and right from the start. The reality is tons players draftes high never amount to much and the Chiefs have been exceptionally grata with high draft picks over the last few years.
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You want a stupid trade that will never happen?

Call the Vikings about Mike Boone.

I think that kid can run the damn ball. He's fast, he's powerful, he has solid vision. That's a ballplayer and if you can swing a trade that makes your backfield Damien, Boone, Thompson and...who gives a ****...do that. Because I think Boone can absolutely be an every down back in this league.
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You want a stupid trade that will never happen?

Call the Vikings about Mike Boone.

I think that kid can run the damn ball. He's fast, he's powerful, he has solid vision. That's a ballplayer and if you can swing a trade that makes your backfield Damien, Boone, Thompson and...who gives a ****...do that. Because I think Boone can absolutely be an every down back in this league.
I like Darrel. I think he's fine.

Boone may be better, but it's a RB so i'm inclined to not really care.

But looking around at CB"s, man, there just isn't a whole hell of a lot out there right now. I don't think I'd really do much in terms of trading around. Maybe a Ward type thing again but you've got Fields and Fenton in that role right now, so whats the point.

If Peterson wasn't suspended for those 6 and they'd take less than a first, I'd probably do that though.
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I like Darrel. I think he's fine.

Boone may be better, but it's a RB so i'm inclined to not really care.

But looking around at CB"s, man, there just isn't a whole hell of a lot out there right now. I don't think I'd really do much in terms of trading around. Maybe a Ward type thing again but you've got Fields and Fenton in that role right now, so whats the point.

If Peterson wasn't suspended for those 6 and they'd take less than a first, I'd probably do that though.
If they'd take a 3rd I'd do it anyway. It would reduce the cap hit and still have him available for the playoffs when we'd most benefit from him.

But they wouldn't.
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