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Old 07-21-2020, 12:20 PM  
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Chris Simms: Tyreek Hill #1 WR in the NFL
at all the Packers fans crying because Davante Adams didn't make his top 10. Video marked at Tyreek Hill discussion.

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Old 07-21-2020, 12:27 PM   #2
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I have to admit, Adams not being in the top 10 is pretty bad. He’s really ****ing good.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:31 PM   #3
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If Reek isn’t #1, he’s absolutely top 3.

Really glad the Chiefs didn’t cut him.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:32 PM   #4
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I have to admit, Adams not being in the top 10 is pretty bad.
Chris bases his stuff off film. He's a film junky. When i watch Adams i don't see anything particularly special either. I see another Big-bodied receiver that has to win contested catches because he doesn't separate well.

You can watch catches by Adams and go, "Tyreek Hill houses that one" "OBJ would take that too the house" etc.

Chris puts an emphasis on game changing type talent with rare physical traits. Adams aint that.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:33 PM   #5
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At least people are coming to the realization that Michael Thomas is overrated
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Chris bases his stuff off film. He's a film junky. When i watch Adams i don't see anything particularly special either. I see another Big-bodied receiver that has to win contested catches because he doesn't separate well.

You can watch catches by Adams and go, "Tyreek Hill houses that one" "OBJ would take that too the house" etc.

Chris puts an emphasis on game changing type talent with rare physical traits. Adams aint that.
I’m basing this on film as well. I don’t give a **** about stats.

Davante Adams is a top 10 WR by ever measure dude. Just looking at the list, there’s no way you can tell me that Green, Cooper, and OBJ have been better the last couple years. Green and OBJ haven’t done dick, and Cooper doesn’t even show up half of the time.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:34 PM   #7
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Reek could break the NFL reception record if he didn't just take half of them for 30 yard gains instead of 15.

I expect 2,000 yards, especially with defenses running around half the year missing their assignments.

Mahomes/Reek street ball will reign supreme.
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I have to admit, Adams not being in the top 10 is pretty bad. He’s really ****ing good.
Devante Adams is a really nice receiver, the issue with him though is because they do not have a speed guy with him, he's limited. That receiver core hurts Rodgers too..his #1 guy is basically a possession receiver.

I think Adams is more of a high end 2 than the elite 1 because he's consistent and makes some high level plays but he isn't going to make a defense scared.
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At least people are coming to the realization that Michael Thomas is overrated
Meh, i wouldn't say people are realizing that. Chris Simms realizes that though, but people just wanna say he does it for click bait.

In reality though, he gauges players by the player alone and removes elements such as system, stats and supporting cast.

The stat junkies will always scream about Michael Thomas.
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Devante Adams is a really nice receiver, the issue with him though is because they do not have a speed guy with him, he's limited. That receiver core hurts Rodgers too..his #1 guy is basically a possession receiver.

I think Adams is more of a high end 2 than the elite 1 because he's consistent and makes some high level plays but he isn't going to make a defense scared.


This is such a shit take. He’s easily a top 10 WR and you’re saying he’s a high end 2?

Just stop.
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I’m basing this on film as well. I don’t give a **** about stats.

Davante Adams is a top 10 WR by ever measure dude. Just looking at the list, there’s no way you can tell me that Green, Cooper, and OBJ have been better the last couple years. Green and OBJ haven’t done dick, and Cooper doesn’t even show up half of the time.
OBJ is better for sure. I'm no Cooper fan, but people swear he's the greatest route runner in the NFL. Idk.

Green, sure, a case can be made for Green.

You say you don't base off stats, then your entire argument is "What have you done for me lately" aka...stats.

Chris isn't answering the question of, "Who's been the most productive", he's answering the question of who he believes is the most talented.

Same reason he has Brady and Brees so far down his QB list (15 & 16 IIRC)
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This is such a shit take. He’s easily a top 10 WR and you’re saying he’s a high end 2?

Just stop.
You think everyone who disagrees with you is a shit take.

Yeah, sorry, but when i put on the "film", he doesn't have the talent of some of these guys listed on here.

He gets production by being Rodgers #1 WR, but look at how often Rodgers has to make a great throw in tight coverage to make it happen.

You don't think guys like OBJ or Green could produce with Aaron Rodgers?
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I have to admit, Adams not being in the top 10 is pretty bad. He’s really ****ing good.
I like it, actually. Doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Keenan Allen, Davante Adams, Allen Robinson and Chris Godwin are all better than Courtland Sutton.
Sutton isn’t even the best receiver on his own goddamn team anymore.

And it’s criminal that Hopkins is ****ing 5th. Give me Hopkins over Julio, Thomas and Evans.

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OBJ is better for sure. I'm no Cooper fan, but people swear he's the greatest route runner in the NFL. Idk.

Green, sure, a case can be made for Green.

You say you don't base off stats, then your entire argument is "What have you done for me lately" aka...stats.

Chris isn't answering the question of, "Who's been the most productive", he's answering the question of who he believes is the most talented.

Same reason he has Brady and Brees so far down his QB list (15 & 16 IIRC)
AJ Green hasn’t played football in 2 years. Whether your argument is stats or tape is irrelevant.

OBJ just hasn’t played like the guy he was. I’m willing to give him a pass due to QB play, and he’s the only one I’d say is arguably better because he’s still a very talented WR.

Cooper is a better route runner and that’s literally it. Adams is better because he’s the polar opposite in terms of hands and consistency. He’s also better after the catch.
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