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FloridaMan88 · 02-02-2009, 09:59 AM

As if they hadn't started already...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...&position=also

Matt Cassel draws interest

TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”

Archie Bunker · 02-02-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?

Since quite a few of these CP QB gurus were anti-Ryan pro-Croyle this time last year, I wouldn't put much stock into it.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:35 PM

Its easy to put up passing yards when all your doing is passing to Moss and Welker. Your probably someone who thinks Moss didn't make Cullpepper too right?

Basileus777 · 02-02-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So were Tyler Thigpen and Dan Orslovsky. Your point?

That's a bullshit comparison and you know it. Cassel is an NFL starter. Is he a franchise QB? Probably not.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?

Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM

You probably also think Bowe didn't make Russell in college either huh?

missinDThomas · 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Since quite a few of these CP QB gurus were anti-Ryan pro-Croyle this time last year, I wouldn't put much stock into it.

word.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

That's a bullshit comparison and you know it. Cassel is an NFL starter. Is he a franchise QB? Probably not.

That's all that matters. I don't want a guy who can be a NFL starter, I want a franchise QB.

Basileus777 · 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.

Did you actually watch him play? The guy improved drastically as the season progressed. He started off as a checkdown guy and by the end of the season he was making plays. I don't want to trade for him, but to simply dismiss him like that is just silly.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:38 PM

Cassel threw 20 TD passing more while Brady threw 50 in the same offense. Hes GREAT!

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Yeah, ignore the fact that he was QBing a team that went 16-0 the previous year and has outstanding WRs. 21TDs? With the team and WRs he had that's an unimpressive number.

You must not have watched many Patriots games. They didn't use Cassell the same way they used Brady. Honestly you're really nitpicking too. Are you trying to say the reason the Pats missed the playoffs was because Matt Cassell? Comparing the 2007 team to the 2008 team is comparing apples to oranges.

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Cassel threw 20 TD passing more while Brady threw 50 in the same offense. Hes GREAT!

Coming from a guy who has Matt Stafford in his avtar i'd say your evaluation on what a good QB is doesn't mean much.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:39 PM

I'll draft my own QBotF before grabbing someone elses castoff.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I'll draft my own QBotF before grabbing someone elses castoff.

Exactly.

Derek Anderson, Part II.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Did you actually watch him play? The guy improved drastically as the season progressed. He started off as a checkdown guy and by the end of the season he was making plays. I don't want to trade for him, but to simply dismiss him like that is just silly.

Yes, I watched a few of his games and he can go somewhere and QB a team but I don't want him to be my starter. He made some plays, other times he figured out he could just chuck a jump ball to Moss.

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

I'll draft my own QBotF before grabbing someone elses castoff.

Good thing you weren't our GM in the 60's. I guess Len Dawson was a "castoff".

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