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FloridaMan88 · 02-02-2009, 09:59 AM

As if they hadn't started already...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...&position=also

Matt Cassel draws interest

TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”

Frankie · 02-02-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

franchise=2 1st rounders, but they can still trade him for whatever

If they franchise him and there are no takers, they are stuck with two expensive QBs.

Frankie · 02-02-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCKY-Fan4life

I say we try and use our 2nd rounder for Cassel, its basically a low 1st round pick. THen we take Crabtree with our #3 pick. We are going to need to fill TOny G's void when he leaves in a few years. How awesome would it be to have 2 WR studs, like Bowe and Crabtree. It would be KC's best WR duo ever.

High 2 is too much to pay for Cassel.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-02-2009, 01:39 PM

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 02:02 PM

Piss on Matt Cassel.

No, seriously.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/ga...her/index.html

New England Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel doesn’t like golden showers.

The football star was in line for the bathroom at ESPN’s Tampa Bay Super Bowl bash Friday night when a drunken reveler tried to cut in front of him. “Matt told him to wait his turn and headed into the urinals,” a spy tells us. Moments later, the fella barged in and proceeded to purposefully pee directly on Cassel’s leg. After security tossed the drunk, Cassel headed back out into the crowd, wet pants and all

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:21 PM

Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?

Because we want a franchise QB, not a college and NFL backup.

Frankie · 02-02-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Why's everyone aginst bringing in Cassell?

I'm not. But I don't want us to pay more than a third for him. I actually want us to sign his unfranchised ass outright.

Frankie · 02-02-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Because we want a franchise QB, not a college and NFL backup.

Last year he was an NFL starter.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:28 PM

I'll take a 20 year old over a 26 year old. Especially when the younger QB has more experience, isn't the product of surrounding talent, has all the physical tools, and a lot more upside.

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Because we want a franchise QB, not a college and NFL backup.

Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?

Fritz88 · 02-02-2009, 02:31 PM

Boston pundits trying to shove Cassel down our throats.

RustShack · 02-02-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?

That same team won 18 games last year, the only major difference was at QB.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Yea an NFL backup that won 11 games his first year as a starter and threw 21 Td's? You'd rather draft an unproven QB who'll be drafted high by default?

An NFL backup that stepped into the most prolific offense in the league.

Which also seems to be a common occurrence at EVERY position for the Patriots. Guys get hurt, a nobody steps in and does the job.

Being successful in NE doesn't mean success elsewhere.

Titty Meat · 02-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

That same team won 18 games last year, the only major difference was at QB.

Really? So the injuries to all their starting Rbs, Rodney Harrison, Adulais Thomas, Ect. Had nothing to do with that? Of course Cassell isn't as good as Tom Brady but neither are most Qb's in the NFL.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

Last year he was an NFL starter.

So were Tyler Thigpen and Dan Orslovsky. Your point?

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