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Old 02-02-2009, 09:59 AM  
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And so the "Matt Cassel to KC" Rumors Begin...
As if they hadn't started already...

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Matt Cassel draws interest


TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:56 PM   #151
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So you're saying bringing in Trent Green (the guy who set franchise records) was a bad trade?
Yes it was. I liked Trent alot but he wasnt the guy to get us over the hump.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #152
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Yeah you're right cause our offense with Trent Green sucked. It wasn't the #1 rated or anything. We didn't lose that playoff game cause our defense couldn't make the other team punt.
So you want us to go Carl Peterson style and just buy/trade for a team so we have a small window to win the Super Bowl instead of building a great young team through the draft?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #153
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It would take the 3rd pick to get Cassell dumbass.
No it wouldn't you're really delusional. First you think Stafford is a good QB then you think it'd take the 3rd overall pick to get Cassell. Do you even watch football?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #154
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My ****ing point is Matt Cassell is more proven then any of those QB's we can win with him. This team has alot of holes you can get Cassell and fill another whole with an impact player at the 3rd pick.
How do you plan on getting Matt Cassel AND retaining the 3rd pick?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:58 PM   #155
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So you want us to go Carl Peterson style and just buy/trade for a team so we have a small window to win the Super Bowl instead of building a great young team through the draft?
Matt Cassell is 26 and has barley played. He probably has atleast 10 more good years of playing. You do know the Patriots made trades for veterans to make it to super bowls right? Again I don't think you even watch football.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:58 PM   #156
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I highly doubt it would take the 3rd pick to get Cassel. A package of seconds is probably what you would be looking at.
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My ****ing point is Matt Cassell is more proven then any of those QB's we can win with him. This team has alot of holes you can get Cassell and fill another whole with an impact player at the 3rd pick.
More proven? Because he started for arguably the best team in the NFL......and threw 20 TDs? Because before the NFL....he hadn't started a game since High School?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:58 PM   #158
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Not really. This franchise has never traded for a young qb.

I'd rather draft Stafford/Sanchez, but all this irrational hate for Cassel is just crazy.
Please, explain why it's irrational.

Irrational is expecting a 27 year old QB, who had never started a game since HS, and played in the most prolific offense of this decade - to be able to replicate his performance with another team - specifically one that is as devoid of talent as the Chiefs are.

Irrational is using a draft pick to trade for said 27 year old, instead of using it on a guy who's 20/21.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:58 PM   #159
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wat?
You think Cassel is a good QB? I don't. I think you take him out of NE he will suck big time.
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How do you plan on getting Matt Cassel AND retaining the 3rd pick?
Trade the 2nd rounder and some of next years picks. None of us know what the Patriots are asking for Cassell so we can only speculate at this point.
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Oh shit bring up the 60's when the game was totally different. You are one of the most clueless pieces of shit here aren't you?
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Bringing up the AFL days when all the players early on were castoffs. Nice comparsion jackass.
What's up with the aggression and the name calling?! This is a football debate, for crying out loud. CHILL!
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No it wouldn't you're really delusional. First you think Stafford is a good QB then you think it'd take the 3rd overall pick to get Cassell. Do you even watch football?
What does watching football have to do with what the Patriots want for Cassel? Do they make trades on the field? But as for your question yes, and they way you talk I think its safe to say I watch a lot more football than you. But I have a question, are you 10?
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Matt Cassell is 26 and has barley played. He probably has atleast 10 more good years of playing. You do know the Patriots made trades for veterans to make it to super bowls right? Again I don't think you even watch football.
First, he'll be 27 when the season starts.

Second, if you think he'll play until he's 37, all I can do is laugh at you.

There is a better chance that he washes out of the league before his 30th birthday than lead a team not located in Foxboro, Massachusetts to the playoffs.
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More proven? Because he started for arguably the best team in the NFL......and threw 20 TDs? Because before the NFL....he hadn't started a game since High School?
The Patriots weren't the best team this year comparing the 2007 to the 2008 team is apples to oranges. Are you saying it was Cassells fault for not making the playoffs? Clearly thats not true. No Rodney Harrison, Adulais Thomas, and all of those starting Rb's played a bigger part and he still won 11 games his first year as a starter.
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Trade the 2nd rounder and some of next years picks. None of us know what the Patriots are asking for Cassell so we can only speculate at this point.
Cassel isn't even worth our high 2nd round pick.
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