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07-01-2020, 10:12 PM | #2 |
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People here seriously undervalue Jones. We don’t win the Super Bowl Without him. He is the ever player on this defense. He makes everything work. He is definitely worth 20 mil a year.
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The Chiefs can't afford Jones at $20 million. It ****ing sucks that we're giving Jones' money to Frank ****ing Clark instead, but that's the reality. (Note: Yes, Frank Clark finally showed up. But right now would you rather keep Frank Clark for the long term or Chris Jones for the long term? I'd much rather keep Jones) |
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07-03-2020, 01:04 AM | #5 | |
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I still have Matthieu over Jones though in terms of indispensable value. But Jones over Clark. |
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07-02-2020, 06:30 AM | #6 |
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Bottom line is we cant keep everyone.
I think that Chris Jones is going to be the first of many going forward. |
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07-02-2020, 07:41 AM | #7 |
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07-02-2020, 06:33 AM | #8 |
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Jones isn’t gonna sit out
He’ll eventually show up |
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07-02-2020, 08:14 AM | #9 |
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Yeah my understanding is the new CBA makes it difficult for a player to hold out. I think it is more bluster prior to July 15th. Probably some disappointment in that I believe Veech was going to pay him prior to the covid thing now a potential decrease in the cap makes it hard.
But if he plays or does not play on the tag you can still deal him for a pick or two in the off season. Just will be hard to trade him and him getting paid, what he wants, in a year the cap decreases. Last edited by Shields68; 07-02-2020 at 08:42 AM.. |
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07-02-2020, 08:25 AM | #10 |
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100%. $16m is nothing to sneeze at for a guy who hasn't made a lot in his career. He'll play. And honestly, I don't blame him one bit for sitting out camp. He has nothing to prove in camp and doesn't need to risk the injury. |
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07-02-2020, 09:45 AM | #11 |
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07-02-2020, 06:58 AM | #12 |
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Keeping over 20 starters in this screwed up off season where draft picks and newly added players are getting "virtual" reps instead of real practice time sets them up for this fall better than any other team. It takes a lot less time to knock off the rust than to learn a whole new system. If CJ wants to increase his earnings the smart thing is to play his ass off for 16mil this year and bank 22-25mil per next year. A 2nd ring and a great year and he might be the #1 interior DL in people's eyes after next year.
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07-02-2020, 07:47 AM | #13 |
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It feels like this will be the biggest “nobody gives a shit” holdout by a franchise tag player ever.
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07-02-2020, 07:54 AM | #14 |
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I like Chris Jones. I want keep Chris Jones. Hope keep Chris Jones.
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07-02-2020, 09:17 AM | #15 |
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I am equally baffled by the overwhelming amount of twitter commenters saying Jones' performance in the Super Bowl was "overrated" as I am by those saying we have to lock up 200m in our defensive line. I remember we talked about the writing on the wall about this situation being there when we traded for Clark. I love Jones. He brings an atypical skillset to the position and has a mentality on that defensive line that comes up clutch when the lights are brightest.
If Andy and the coaching staff aren't willing to pay him 20m/year (his market price), that should tell us something. I think I've grown a bit more accepting of Jones going elsewhere after watching Kollman's breakdowns of Jones' run defense. Jones run D never stopped being a liability through the end of the season. He was often out of position or missed run assignments and had to be bailed out by other players. He came up huge in the playoffs/Super Bowl, no doubt, but it makes me wonder if that's why the Chiefs are more hesitant to make a deal than previously indicated. If he ends up going elsewhere, I wish him the best. The dude had a straight up legendary performance in the Super Bowl and we don't win a title without him. He should never have to pay for a meal in KC ever again. |
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